Horrific Newtown, CT school shooting

[satan's twin]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I was probably a lot easier for them to reach out to. My only full brother was a very good athlete, still has the school track and field record for the javelin, I think. My oldest brother (half) was the best pitcher in the city. I had two younger brothers and two older ones, and just from studying them, I knew how to act to fit in with guys.

The Asperger's diagnosis saved me from my parents.

My mom and step dad would take me in the basement and beat the hell out of me with a huge wooden paddle.

Eventually, they got so frustrated because all of the paddling, ear-pulling, and head slapping wasn't working...that they took me to a few doctors.

Dr. Barber diagnosed me with it. And liked me so much that he went around filming me. The Barber Center here used me as the film for sort of the textbook case.

Anyway, my mom and stepdad just backed off of me at that point. All of the efforts to discipline me stopped ... all of her dreams that I would one day be a CEO were crushed -- and she accepted it.

I refused to do homework -- but I would shuffle up and memorize 3 decks of playing cards ... stuff like that would drive her almost to violence.

Jeezus. With all that ear-pulling and head slapping, I'm guessing s.hit roles downhill. Is that when you'd rub one out and then 'naughty' up your socks?

[SOREHOOF]

So what exactly is the definition of "assault rifle"? Civilian versions of military weapons? Scary looking guns? They are no more dangerous than any other semi-auto rifle and a lot less powerful than most. A friend of mine has a semi-auto 30-06 that wouldn't be touched by an "assault weapon" ban, but makes an AR-15 look like a childs' toy. There was no spike in crime when the federal ban expired. These mass killings get the attention, thanks mostly to an anti-gun media, but your odds of being shot by one are less than being hit by lightening. There are definitely a lot of whackos out there, and that fact doesn't make me want to give up my guns any time soon. This guy was plenty intelligent enough to build a bomb if he had no access to guns, and could have done just as much damage with the handguns he had with him. Hundreds of millions of gun owners did not shoot up an Elementary School last week. One deranged kid did. It wasn't the gun. It was him. There is more violent crime in the UK per 100000 people than in the U.S.. Mexico has the strictest gun laws in the world. How's that working out for them? I don't want the same Govt. that thinks it's a good idea to arm the Mexican Drug Cartels deciding who should own a firearm in America. I'll take my chances with Freedom and the Constitution. Including the 2nd Amendment.

[SOREHOOF]

Whatinthehell is MAR?

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by GPK

Military style assault rifles

Thanks. I didn't know either.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Thanks. I didn't know either.

Some cal them MSR. Evidently the CEO has made the call to stop selling them ASAP.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by GPK

Some cal them MSR. Evidently the CEO has made the call to stop selling them ASAP.

They are a business and can run it however they like.

It is a symbolic (and meaningless) gesture. The demand will simply be met by someone else - legally, until they ban it, then illegally afterwards.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by joeydb

They are a business and can run it however they like.

It is a symbolic (and meaningless) gesture. The demand will simply be met by someone else - legally, until they ban it, then illegally afterwards.

Let's look at this specific situation. If this douchebag's mother didn't have the weapons in her home, would he have been able to pull off this hideous act? Maybe. Although by most accounts he could barely function around people, so it would have made it a lot more difficult.

Which is the entire point. Let's try and make it harder for people to commit these acts, by limiting (or denying) access to weapons that people have no business owning. Of course people might still be able to get them by illegal means, but it won't be so easy.

Why would anyone not in the military need a military style assault rifle? I've asked and asked and no one seems to be able to muster up an answer other than to say "because I can."

Brilliant.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

They are a business and can run it however they like.

It is a symbolic (and meaningless) gesture. The demand will simply be met by someone else - legally, until they ban it, then illegally afterwards.

no, it's not. once made illegal, much of the demand will disappear. the street value of those already owned will rise-but if at the same time all private sales were banned(with stiff penalties for people who buy or sell privately), and cities instituted buy backs, many would be destroyed and gone forever. yes, right now many own these guns- because they can (yeah, the slippery slope argument). but if they can't, they'll get rid of them.

do you think everything should be left as is? that we just throw up our hands and say 'such is life' and not do a thing?