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Old 10-28-2012, 04:25 PM
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How bout 10 bucks...We have already established what you are, we are now just bickering about the price...





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Give you a D minus for originality

What run out of cartoons?
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Old 10-28-2012, 04:27 PM
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Give you a D minus for originality

What run out of cartoons?

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Old 10-28-2012, 04:40 PM
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In the biography that accompanied Obama's book, it said he was born in Kenya. That biography was written by Obama's literary agent. You mentioned being gullible. You would have to be pretty gullible to believe that Obama's literary agency just made the whole thing up.

According to a promotional booklet produced by the agency, Acton & Dystel, to showcase its roster of writers, Obama was "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/...6#.UEo-ILJlTE5
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Old 10-28-2012, 04:50 PM
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In the biography that accompanied Obama's book, it said he was born in Kenya. That biography was written by Obama's literary agent. You mentioned being gullible. You would have to be pretty gullible to believe that Obama's literary agency just made the whole thing up.

According to a promotional booklet produced by the agency, Acton & Dystel, to showcase its roster of writers, Obama was "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/...6#.UEo-ILJlTE5
That's right. The typo on a media handout - not the biography of the actual book - that was disallowed publicly by the publisher was really a secret plot, and the birth announcements in the Hawaiian news papers were telegraphed from Kenya.

If you are a birther, you are a delusional, gullible, loony conspiracy theorist. Period.
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Old 10-28-2012, 05:09 PM
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That's right. The typo on a media handout - not the biography of the actual book - that was disallowed publicly by the publisher was really a secret plot, and the birth announcements in the Hawaiian news papers were telegraphed from Kenya.

If you are a birther, you are a delusional, gullible, loony conspiracy theorist. Period.
A birth announcement in a Hawaii newspaper is not evidence of anything. If your parents were going to announce the birth of your child in the newspaper, would they cancel the announcement if you gave birth overseas? I have never understood that argument. Obama's mom lived in Hawaii. She was pregnant in Hawaii. If she did in fact go to Kenya to be with Barack's father for the delivery, why would her parents not post news of the birth in the newspaper? Maybe Barack was born in Hawaii, but the newspaper announcement is not evidence of anything, one way or the other.
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Old 10-28-2012, 05:13 PM
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A birth announcement in a Hawaii newspaper is not evidence of anything. If your parents were going to announce the birth of your child in the newspaper, would they cancel the announcement if you gave birth overseas? I have never understood that argument. Obama's mom lived in Hawaii. She was pregnant in Hawaii. If she did in fact go to Kenya to be with Barack's father for the delivery, why would her parents not post news of the birth in the newspaper? Maybe Barack was born in Hawaii, but the newspaper announcement is not evidence of anything, one way or the other.
Anybody who is a "birther is a delusional conspiracy loon

And I personally am convinced beyond a doubt that all birthers are racists. They are convinced this President, who was vetted by the US government before he could run for president, isn't an American. Yet they don't demand any white candidates birth certificate. Loony racism.
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A birth announcement in a Hawaii newspaper is not evidence of anything. If your parents were going to announce the birth of your child in the newspaper, would they cancel the announcement if you gave birth overseas? I have never understood that argument. Obama's mom lived in Hawaii. She was pregnant in Hawaii. If she did in fact go to Kenya to be with Barack's father for the delivery, why would her parents not post news of the birth in the newspaper? Maybe Barack was born in Hawaii, but the newspaper announcement is not evidence of anything, one way or the other.
does the birther movement dispute that his mother was an american citizen?

because if not, what exactly is the birth of an american citizen's child overseas suppose to prove?
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Old 10-28-2012, 08:06 PM
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what an incredible thread.

its kind of sad what we argue about close to election time. A bet from The Don to the President of the USA.

i wish a third party had a chance
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Old 10-28-2012, 09:10 PM
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does the birther movement dispute that his mother was an american citizen?

because if not, what exactly is the birth of an american citizen's child overseas suppose to prove?
i can't believe this is still brought up as a legitimate point of contention. with the untold mound of money available to the republican party, does anyone really think that this nonstory hasn't already been investigated? if there was a shot in hell that obama was indeed 'not a citizen' (which is absurd) i am absolutely positive that the republican national party would have already had a huge announcement long before now.
election day can't get here soon enough. i'm sick of the whole sordid mess.
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Old 10-28-2012, 09:22 PM
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does the birther movement dispute that his mother was an american citizen?

because if not, what exactly is the birth of an american citizen's child overseas suppose to prove?
Obama's mother was certainly an American citizen. I think it is somewhat of a gray area with regard to whether he would be eligible to run for President if he was in fact born overseas. You could make a legitimate argument that even if he was born in Kenya and spent his first few months of life in Kenya, he should still be eligible to run for President. I mean the guy is an American citizen. His mother was an American citizen.

But I think the way that most constitutional scholars have interpreted the constitution, a person would not be eligible in this situation because the wording says "only natural born citizens are eligible".
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