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View Poll Results: Vote for President and VP of United States
Constitution Party - Virgil Goode 1 3.23%
Democratic Party - Barack Obama - Joe Biden 12 38.71%
Green Party - Jill Stein 0 0%
Libertarian Party - Gary Johnson 3 9.68%
Republican Party - Mitt Romney - Paul Ryan 13 41.94%
I am still undecided. Seriously. Don't laugh at me. I'm thinking. 2 6.45%
Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-09-2012, 02:33 PM
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Are you kidding?

You are correct of course about the electoral vote, but obviously the vote that did not go to which candidate has a chance to win that is still more favorable to the third-party voter than the Democrat does have an impact.

Count the votes on the top of this page. If the Johnson votes went to Romney instead, doesn't the result become clearer? It is much more likely that the third-party voter will lose the election for Romney than win it for Johnson - astronomically so.

So again - in 2012 - with the polls where they are - even plus or minus 10% for Obama or Romney - a vote for Johnson is equivalent to a vote for Obama.

That is the math of it, and all the motivation, justification, and hand-wringing before and after casting the vote is meaningless. The MATH is all that MATTERS as that is what drives the RESULT.
Perhaps that wouldn't be the case if Romney didn't kowtow so far to the fringe right, to the point of excluding the majority of Americans. One thing for certain, that ain't Gary Johnson's fault, or problem.

The Republicans are something else man.... You could run an empty sack of potatoes against Obama and would win this election considering what an abject failure his presidency has been in virtually every measurement.

But no...Gotta stick an overstuffed,overprivileged fundamentalist with a recipe for financial disaster in there to insure you alienate the majority of the voting population, then cry about how a third party candidate "stole" your election from you.

good grief.
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Old 10-09-2012, 02:41 PM
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You could run an empty sack of potatoes against Obama and would win this election considering what an abject failure his presidency has been in virtually every measurement.
Except in actual measurements: foreign policy, domestic policy, preventing a depression .

Rude, seriously, look at the conservative side: who else would have been a viable candidate this cycle?

I can't think of anyone other than Jeb I'd consider qualified for national office out of what remains of that party. Do you have any?

And Jeb was too smart to lose against Obama this cycle. He's sitting out the Tea Party wingnut faction.

Who is going to throw in 2016? Rand Paul, Paul Ryan, Jeb Bush maybe ...
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