NY Task Force on Racehorse Health & Safety Report, Reccos

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Riot

You might rather re-read the multiple places where I have already answered that in detail rather than your simplistic statement - good job!

Since you keep talking in circles I thought keeping it simple might help.

It hasn't.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Since you keep talking in circles I thought keeping it simple might help.

It hasn't.

It is all she ever does. It would explain a lot if she lived in a crop field.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Since you keep talking in circles I thought keeping it simple might help.

It hasn't.

You know that's not true, nor is it fair.

Especially as I've tried to answer your questions in good faith, and it appears you deliberately want to ignore that.

Once again, I tried to keep it very simple for you pages ago:

Virtually all TB race horses suffer EIPH.
Suffering EIPH impedes performance.
Lasix attenuates EIPH very successfully.
Horses that don't suffer EIPH - because they have received a shot of lasix - regain their performance level.
Yes, lasix improves performance in horses suffering EIPH, because they are no longer suffering EIPH.
If you give a performance horse not suffering EIPH lasix, does their performance improve?
No. Not at all. No, lasix is not a stand-alone performance-enhancer.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Riot

If you give a performance horse not suffering EIPH lasix, does their performance improve?
No. Not at all. No, lasix is not a stand-alone performance-enhancer.

Again, since all horse bleed according to you, how could you possibly prove this? Drug em all, that is the ticket.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Again, since all horse bleed according to you, how could you possibly prove this? Drug em all, that is the ticket.

Are you deliberately obtuse, or simply unable to understand? I'll give you a bit of credit, I'm guessing the former.

All horses that work at certain speeds and intensities suffer EIPH, all breeds (race horses, event horses, etc). However, not all horses that work hard for shorter intensities suffer EIPH (cutting horses, reining horses). Yes, if you give the second group of horses lasix, no, their performance is not improved.

Yes, all TB race horses are considered to bleed in their fast work (not at slow base-forming gallops).

Anyway, Hinchcliff proved the point in South Africa a few years ago, verifying previous data from NYRA races, and Australia.

Don't you have another conspiracy theory, where you completely ignore science you don't like, to promulgate? Gravity is a lie, or evolution doesn't occur?