Obama Top 50 accomplishments

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Assessments from major economists on the stimulus have been posted here in Derby Trail before, several times, in threads you have commented upon.

Sorry, I assume you read and remember the threads you have posted in?

But go ahead and post economists talking about how the stimulus has failed - please. I'll be happy to post - again, for the third time - the ones that verify it was a success.

Can you post 999 for every 1 I can find?

That is how you convert % into real numbers.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Can you post 999 for every 1 I can find?

That is how you convert % into real numbers.

Um. No. Your math is off. You've confused the mathematical conversion to percentage with an actual percentage. You're off by a decimal point. Try again But I'll be looking forward to your postings! Anxiously awaiting you to post the first study that shows the stimulus was a failure.

[Clip-Clop]

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...in-in-spending

"Nearly 100 prominent U.S. economists including former CBO Director Douglas Holtz-Eakin, Ohio University’s Richard Vedder, and James C. Miller, III, who headed up the White House Office of Management and Budget under Ronald Reagan, are telling President Barack Obama that his economic stimulus has failed"

There is 3, your turn.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...in-in-spending

"Nearly 100 prominent U.S. economists including former CBO Director Douglas Holtz-Eakin, Ohio University’s Richard Vedder, and James C. Miller, III, who headed up the White House Office of Management and Budget under Ronald Reagan, are telling President Barack Obama that his economic stimulus has failed"

There is 3, your turn.

Yes - can you show what actual studies and figures they are using to show that? Because you are quoting from back in early 2010 - before the stimulus was even fully in effect. Try quoting an economist from 2011 or 2012, looking back on the stimulus.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes - can you show what actual studies and figures they are using to show that?

I would just like the names of 2997 that refute their opinions.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I would just like the names of 2997 that refute their opinions.

Here's your baseline: the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office published a very well-covered study that says the stimulus worked.

Show one economist that says that data is wrong, and has his own data to disprove it

(Hint - I know of two, that I've put on Derby Trail twice before, lets see if you can find them)

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I would just like the names of 2997 that refute their opinions.

It gonna be more than that.

"President Obama has relied on short-term “stimulus” programs, which provided little sustainable lift to the economy. His future plans are to double down on the failed policies, which will only prolong slow growth and high unemployment."
http://economistsforromney.com/
654 signatures to date. So, she needs to come up with around 654,000.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by OldDog

It gonna be more than that.

"President Obama has relied on short-term “stimulus” programs, which provided little sustainable lift to the economy. His future plans are to double down on the failed policies, which will only prolong slow growth and high unemployment."
http://economistsforromney.com/
654 signatures to date. So, she needs to come up with around 654,000.

Yes, as I posted in the other thread, "stimulus" is, by definition, short term. So your economists agree with definitions of stimulus.

Can you post anything from an economist proving the CBO data wrong? That the stimulus didn't work?

Because the above doesn't say that, in spite of your pretending it does.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, as I posted in the other thread, "stimulus" is, by definition, short term. So your economists agree with definitions of stimulus.

Can you post anything from an economist proving the CBO data wrong? That the stimulus didn't work?

Because the above doesn't say that, in spite of your pretending it does.

You are burdened with proof in this, you claimed 999 out of 1000 stand behind it working, now the argument is the CBO said so...
Please provide the names of the economists that are supporting the stimulus, and do so at the above rate.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I would just like the names of 2997 that refute their opinions.

lol
don't hold your breath waiting.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

lol
don't hold your breath waiting.

Yeah - I've yet to see anyone post data from one economist, in 2012, that disputes the CBO's report on the stimulus re: the effect on jobs and GDP.

You're right - don't hold your breathing waiting to see any one here be able to explain "why the stimulus is a massive failure" - other than that they hate Obama.

[Clip-Clop]

Math, not welcome here. Point proven again that once math is introduced to a debate on this forum the debate moves on to something else.
Numbers do not lie.