Random observations on 9/11

[Danzig]

http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/cae6...103b985f4742a2


BENGHAZI, Libya (AP) — The attack that killed four Americans in Libya, including the U.S. ambassador, was an organized two-part operation by heavily armed militants that included a precisely timed raid on a supposedly secret safe house just as Libyan and U.S. security forces were arriving to rescue evacuated consulate staff, a senior Libyan security official said on Thursday.

Wanis el-Sharef, eastern Libya's deputy interior minister, said the attacks Tuesday night were suspected to have been timed to mark the 9/11 anniversary and that the militants used civilians protesting an anti-Islam film as cover for their action. Infiltrators within the security forces may have tipped off militants to the safe house location, he said.

He said an unspecified number of militants suspected of taking part in the attack have been arrested and that others were being closely monitored by police to see whether they are linked to a group. He refused to elaborate.

[Danzig]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a..._smirked_.html

The story has just begun. We don’t yet know its contours—whether it will unfold as a one-shot tragedy or as the opening salvo of a monumental crisis. But less than a full day after the violent assault on the U.S. embassy in Egypt and the killing of our ambassador and three of his staff in Libya, a few lessons can be noted.

First, diplomacy still matters, perhaps above all else. Hillary Clinton reported this morning, in her most eloquent news conference as secretary of state, that Libyan citizens and security forces had tried to fight off the small mob of militants who set fire to the U.S. consulate in Benghazi and that, afterward, they’d sheltered many survivors and carried the ambassador, J. Christopher Stevens, to a nearby hospital. They did this, in good part, because they knew Stevens. A year ago, as the U.S. emissary, he had helped the rebels—who now form Libya’s fledgling democratic government—in their fight to overthrow Muammar Qaddafi. Ever since, he’d been greeted as a friend in his travels around the country.

Similarly, Clinton said, Egyptian security forces helped American guards stave off those who stormed the U.S. embassy in Cairo before much damage was done. Though she didn’t mention it, the new president, Mohamed Morsi, must know that his country’s fortunes, and thus his own political prospects, depend on foreign aid and investment. A few days earlier, Morsi had met with American businessmen and tried to assure them that the climate for investment was sound. Nobody will believe this message if he can’t guarantee the security of foreign embassies on Egyptian soil—or prosecute those who violate their sovereign status.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a..._smirked_.html

The story has just begun. We don’t yet know its contours—whether it will unfold as a one-shot tragedy or as the opening salvo of a monumental crisis. But less than a full day after the violent assault on the U.S. embassy in Egypt and the killing of our ambassador and three of his staff in Libya, a few lessons can be noted.

First, diplomacy still matters, perhaps above all else. Hillary Clinton reported this morning, in her most eloquent news conference as secretary of state, that Libyan citizens and security forces had tried to fight off the small mob of militants who set fire to the U.S. consulate in Benghazi and that, afterward, they’d sheltered many survivors and carried the ambassador, J. Christopher Stevens, to a nearby hospital. They did this, in good part, because they knew Stevens. A year ago, as the U.S. emissary, he had helped the rebels—who now form Libya’s fledgling democratic government—in their fight to overthrow Muammar Qaddafi. Ever since, he’d been greeted as a friend in his travels around the country.

Similarly, Clinton said, Egyptian security forces helped American guards stave off those who stormed the U.S. embassy in Cairo before much damage was done. Though she didn’t mention it, the new president, Mohamed Morsi, must know that his country’s fortunes, and thus his own political prospects, depend on foreign aid and investment. A few days earlier, Morsi had met with American businessmen and tried to assure them that the climate for investment was sound. Nobody will believe this message if he can’t guarantee the security of foreign embassies on Egyptian soil—or prosecute those who violate their sovereign status.

I dont think I believe a word Hillary said.

There are pictures of Stevens being dragged on the ground.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I dont think I believe a word Hillary said.

There are pictures of Stevens being dragged on the ground.

Hillary only sees what's in her head.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I dont think I believe a word Hillary said.

There are pictures of Stevens being dragged on the ground.

There are pictures of Libyan security rushing Stevens on foot (they are carrying him) to the hospital. We have Stevens body. He was not "dragged through the streets by a mob", as has been falsely reported on some inflammatory American right-wing anti-Muslim web sites.

[Danzig]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/15/wo...r-4th-day.html


more protests in more countries, and other country's embassies also being targeted.




and who can argue with this logic:

In Hilla, in the Shiite-dominated south, a witness reported the burning of American and Israeli flags. In Kufa, another Shiite town in the south, a mosque preacher declared his belief that the four Americans killed in the attack in Libya actually died at the hands of the American government to create a pretext for the United States to seek revenge and extend its presence in the region.




i can't believe they burned obama's effigy..i mean, he won the nobel peace prize!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

There are pictures of Libyan security rushing Stevens on foot (they are carrying him) to the hospital. We have Stevens body. He was not "dragged through the streets by a mob", as has been falsely reported on some inflammatory American right-wing anti-Muslim web sites.

why dont you look at the pictures and come up with your own conclusions.

oh thats right.. that is impossible for you to do. go ahead and believe everything the Obama administration tells you.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

why dont you look at the pictures and come up with your own conclusions.

oh thats right.. that is impossible for you to do. go ahead and believe everything the Obama administration tells you.

I did look at the pictures, reviewed the facts, and came up with my own conclusion, thanks.

Your clumsy attempt to bitchily change the subject to Obama-smearing and insulting me is duly noted.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012...icial-website/

The Brotherhood’s Arabic feed included messages that praised the protests, such as “Egyptians revolt for the Prophet’s victory in front of U.S. embassy.”

Thought this might rile both sides up.

Ding ding round 1419!!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012...icial-website/



Thought this might rile both sides up.

Ding ding round 1419!!

“Thanks. By the way, have you checked out your own Arabic feeds? I hope you know we read those too,”


zing

Camp Bastion in Afghanistan attacked.

Casualties.

Prince Harry is stationed.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Camp Bastion in Afghanistan attacked.

Casualties.

Prince Harry is stationed.

While his sister in law runs around topless.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Camp Bastion in Afghanistan attacked.

Casualties.

Prince Harry is stationed.

http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/cae6...f3fcb1b47fa6b0

2 marines killed.

It seems like the 11th Anniversary is the official start to World War III.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19620114

Big Trouble in Little China.

India sending troops to the Chinese border

http://www.business-standard.com/ind...border/486647/

The majority of our diplomats in northern Africa and the Middle East have left.

Usually when this happens the bombs start dropping within 90 days.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

The majority of our diplomats in northern Africa and the Middle East have left.

Usually when this happens the bombs start dropping within 90 days.

A few months ago I would have said you were crazy Coach - but the whole area is turning to sh*t very very quickly. It would not be surprising to to see Israel launch an attach on Iran soon - when that happen..as OJ said LOOOOOOOOK OUTTTTTTT

Article III, Section III

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

Aid and Comfort.

Oh the semantics involved with this one.