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Old 09-05-2012, 05:35 PM
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Ezra Klein....LOL
Ezra Klein has excellent peer-reviewed credentials as a public economic journalist, and you know it. Your attempt to disparage the source is a gigantic fail. Is he a lefty? Yup. Sure is. Does that have anything to do with accuracy in analyzing facts and figures? Nope.

That you do not talk about the figures given, or refute them, reveals all. LOL. Trifecta. LOL

Hate, fear, God. It's the Republican Party 2012.

Don't build a new house. Throw eggs at the old house, and then insult the paint job as being destroyed. That's all you guys are doing this election cycle. You are the John Birch Society writ large. No solutions, no reality, just hate, fear and God. You are such a minority within this society, you hardly matter any more.
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If Paul Ryan was not religious... or was religious and kept it to himself and really believed in seperation of church and state, I may really like the guy. He's an actual, true conservative.

Mitt Romney? eh, dont care for him.

Obama is just not made for this job.

Biden? Probably the worst of the four.

I wish a non religious Paul Ryan was running for President!


edit - what i really wish are people like Ron Paul or Gary Johnson had a real shot at winning.
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[quote=Antitrust32;888647]If Paul Ryan was not religious... or was religious and kept it to himself and really believed in seperation of church and state, I may really like the guy. He's an actual, true conservative.

Mitt Romney? eh, dont care for him.

Obama is just not made for this job.

Biden? Probably the worst of the four.

I wish a non religious Paul Ryan was running for President!


edit - what i really wish are people like Ron Paul or Gary Johnson had a real shot at winning.[/QUOTE]


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Wow, Riot is really spiraling out of control!


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http://thinkprogress.org/economy/201...lan/?mobile=nc


just saw the above, and figured this was as good a place as any to put it. another example of fantasy vs reality.


NORQUIST: You do two things. You reduce spending, and you have stronger economic growth. This is one of the weakest recoveries we’ve had –

ZAKARIA: You can as a practical matter, this is a wish, not a plan. I would like stronger economic growth, too….This is all rhetoric, Grover. You’ve got a plan as a practical matter. As I said, Clinton raised taxes, he got growth. Bush had the biggest tax cuts in a generation, and he got the weakest growth in 30 years. All I’m saying is as a matter of practical planning for the fiscal future of the United States your answer can’t be, well we’ll have stronger growth. Yeah, if we grow at 6%, we don’t need to do anything. Everything is solvent, right? But I can’t wish for that. We’ve got to plan realistically.
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just saw the above, and figured this was as good a place as any to put it. another example of fantasy vs reality.


NORQUIST: You do two things. You reduce spending, and you have stronger economic growth. This is one of the weakest recoveries we’ve had –

ZAKARIA: You can as a practical matter, this is a wish, not a plan. I would like stronger economic growth, too….This is all rhetoric, Grover. You’ve got a plan as a practical matter. As I said, Clinton raised taxes, he got growth. Bush had the biggest tax cuts in a generation, and he got the weakest growth in 30 years. All I’m saying is as a matter of practical planning for the fiscal future of the United States your answer can’t be, well we’ll have stronger growth. Yeah, if we grow at 6%, we don’t need to do anything. Everything is solvent, right? But I can’t wish for that. We’ve got to plan realistically.
Just cut taxes and everything will be taken care of. Executives at Corporations will use it to hire US citizens and not continue to stuff their already bloated wallets. Real Estate taxes will remain the same unlike when Bush cut taxes and they went up EVERY ****ING YEAR. If that doesn't work then certainly WWIII will do the trick, it worked in the 40's right?
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Ezra Klein has excellent peer-reviewed credentials as a public economic journalist, and you know it. Your attempt to disparage the source is a gigantic fail. Is he a lefty? Yup. Sure is. Does that have anything to do with accuracy in analyzing facts and figures? Nope.

That you do not talk about the figures given, or refute them, reveals all. LOL. Trifecta. LOL

Hate, fear, God. It's the Republican Party 2012.

Don't build a new house. Throw eggs at the old house, and then insult the paint job as being destroyed. That's all you guys are doing this election cycle. You are the John Birch Society writ large. No solutions, no reality, just hate, fear and God. You are such a minority within this society, you hardly matter any more.
The entire economic failure that began in 2008 was caused by a housing bubble caused by policies implemented by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd in the mid 1990's and pushed through by the Clinton administration. Ezra Klein is nothing more than an elistist liberal hack similar to most other "progressive" journalists. They make up the facts as they go along. People who make 50k a year have no business buying a 750k home. That is what was going on. Bush was a failure, but his letting us down has noe led to a left wing extremist being voted into the White House. Luckily, most people have caught on to the nonsensical **** that he has been pulling rather quickly. His healthcare plan is not only an epic failure, it was also illegal. No one know what is in the ****ing thing, yourself included. Please enjoy the coverage of the DNC tonight on MSNBC. You can listen to Al Sharpton and Chris Matthews opine all night.
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The entire economic failure that began in 2008 was caused by a housing bubble caused by policies implemented by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd in the mid 1990's and pushed through by the Clinton administration. Ezra Klein is nothing more than an elistist liberal hack similar to most other "progressive" journalists. They make up the facts as they go along. People who make 50k a year have no business buying a 750k home. That is what was going on. Bush was a failure, but his letting us down has noe led to a left wing extremist being voted into the White House. Luckily, most people have caught on to the nonsensical **** that he has been pulling rather quickly. His healthcare plan is not only an epic failure, it was also illegal. No one know what is in the ****ing thing, yourself included. Please enjoy the coverage of the DNC tonight on MSNBC. You can listen to Al Sharpton and Chris Matthews opine all night.
I watch the convention on CSpan, thanks - no commentary at all. You might try it.
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I watch the convention on CSpan, thanks - no commentary at all. You might try it.
It is amusing how you didn't respond to the facts that I posted here....You simply told me that I should watch on CSPAN.
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It is amusing how you didn't respond to the facts that I posted here....You simply told me that I should watch on CSPAN.
Please - go ahead and post some factual support for your very broad, simplist, and generalized "facts". Which are really just loose opinions.

I'll be happy to reply when you've done that

Again, these threads are the perfect example of what type of person populates the right wing nowadays.

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Please - go ahead and post some factual support for your very broad, simplist, and generalized "facts". Which are really just loose opinions.

I'll be happy to reply when you've done that

Again, these threads are the perfect example of what type of person populates the right wing nowadays.

Hate, anger, fear, God. It's all you've got.
Class warfare and race baiting is all you have. And your facts are comical nonsense supported by biased liberal outlets.
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Class warfare and race baiting is all you have. And your facts are comical nonsense supported by biased liberal outlets.
Sure. "Class warfare and race baiting". That's exactly what you and I have been talking about with the jobs numbers.

You said CNN made statements regarding the jobs numbers , and you refuse to even discuss it calmly and factually.

Instead of responding, you scream at me, "You're a race baiter and class warfare ARG!"

And you want to be taken seriously? By whom - Dell and that other loon, PezDispenser?

What a load of lying crap. That's one of the stupidest statements of victimized whiny ignorance I've ever read on this board. You're a fool. You're exactly the type of idiot who is destroying the formerly great Republican Party.
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Class warfare and race baiting is all you have. And your facts are comical nonsense supported by biased liberal outlets.

And your facts are supported by - lemmie guess-unbiased FAUX...am i correct or right...
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The entire economic failure that began in 2008 was caused by a housing bubble caused by policies implemented by Barney Frank and Chris Dodd in the mid 1990's and pushed through by the Clinton administration. Ezra Klein is nothing more than an elistist liberal hack similar to most other "progressive" journalists. They make up the facts as they go along. People who make 50k a year have no business buying a 750k home. That is what was going on. Bush was a failure, but his letting us down has noe led to a left wing extremist being voted into the White House. Luckily, most people have caught on to the nonsensical **** that he has been pulling rather quickly. His healthcare plan is not only an epic failure, it was also illegal. No one know what is in the ****ing thing, yourself included. Please enjoy the coverage of the DNC tonight on MSNBC. You can listen to Al Sharpton and Chris Matthews opine all night.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Act

President Bill Clinton’s signing statement for the GLBA summarized the established argument for repealing Glass-Steagall Section’s 20 and 32 in stating that this change, and the GLBA’s amendments to the Bank Holding Company Act, would “enhance the stability of our financial services system” by permitting financial firms to “diversify their product offerings and thus their sources of revenue” and make financial firms “better equipped to compete in global financial markets."

yeah, that....uh...went well.


altho bush deserves a share of criticism (two wars for starters) he certainly didn't sign the glass-steagall changes. that bubble that burst while he was in office was already growing thanks to the above, brought to you by-BOTH PARTIES,and signed into law by the hero of the democratic party, bill clinton.
so, altho it's fashionable to beat the 'blame bush' drums, that's far from the entire story. i know, i know...shocking. there's nothing politicians enjoy more than garnering praise when things are good, and pointing fingers at everyone else when it's bad.
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President Bill Clinton’s signing statement for the GLBA summarized the established argument for repealing Glass-Steagall Section’s 20 and 32 in stating that this change, and the GLBA’s amendments to the Bank Holding Company Act, would “enhance the stability of our financial services system” by permitting financial firms to “diversify their product offerings and thus their sources of revenue” and make financial firms “better equipped to compete in global financial markets."

yeah, that....uh...went well.


altho bush deserves a share of criticism (two wars for starters) he certainly didn't sign the glass-steagall changes. that bubble that burst while he was in office was already growing thanks to the above, brought to you by-BOTH PARTIES,and signed into law by the hero of the democratic party, bill clinton.
so, altho it's fashionable to beat the 'blame bush' drums, that's far from the entire story. i know, i know...shocking. there's nothing politicians enjoy more than garnering praise when things are good, and pointing fingers at everyone else when it's bad.
An inconvenient truth.
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An inconvenient truth.
yeah, it doesn't square with the blame bush, republicans all suck mantra. 'republicans block everything worthwhile'...and yet, obamacare got passed. there's fantasyland, and then there's harsh reality.
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a picture of the upcoming debates between romney and obama:

imagesCAX82TUL.jpg



so, make sure you vote for douche bag over turd sandwich.



and then there's the following, from gore vidal:


'It makes no difference who you vote for - the two parties are really one party representing four percent of the people.'


or

'By the time a man gets to be presidential material, he's been bought ten times over.'
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Speaking now: Former Bain Capital-owned company employees.
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