The Dodgers/Red Sox Trade

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

There are a zillion other stats and you use number of earned runs as the metric?

You are right- Lester is as good or even close to as good as king Felix or Kershaw and its only the ballparks that are keeping him from being as dominant. What was I thinking?

The red sox, meanwhile, haven't been to the playoffs since 2009. He has lost his last 3 playoff starts. Meanwhile, from 2009-2011 he was 8-0 against Baltimore and 9-2 against Toronto while he was 6-6 against Tampa. Prior to his last start against the Yankees, he had a 6 plus era and a whip of 1.75 over his last seven starts vs. the yanks.

One more thing: from 2009 -2011 Lester had a better era at home than on the road. Look it up.

Yes, you are right again. Lester is right up there with Halliday.

What are you smoking? You are complaining about earned run average and adjusted era, ignoring the WAR metric and using wins and losses?


Yeah the criteria for being a number 1 starter is being "as good" as Roy Halladay, Felix Hernandez and Clayton Kershaw? Right ballpark factors are complete bullshit and shouldnt be taken into consideration? Your inference that because the Red Sox have not made the playoffs since 2009 somehow Lester is to blame is ridiclous. The idea that he has not been a good playoff pitcher is of course not supported by the numbers. He started 6 playoff games and in 5 of the 6 pitched well. Yeah he lost his last 3 playoff starts but you fail to note that the Red Sox scored a grand total of 2 runs in those 3 games, 1 in two of them and got shutout in the other. I'm sure that Lester had something to do with that? You forgot to add that in 3 of his 6 playoff starts he allowed zero earned runs.

You ignore 4 years worth of top 5% production to bring up the last 7 games against the Yankees? Are all closers **** because they arent as good as Mariano Rivera?

By virtually every statistical measure that there is Lester is a extremely good starting pitcher. He has not been nearly as good this year but that doesnt mean that the previous years dont count.