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Old 08-23-2012, 06:43 PM
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No they don't, not on mine.
Ok. I respect that. Who do you like?
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:33 PM
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Ok. I respect that. Who do you like?
Probably the horse from the Haskell, the runner up.
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:46 PM
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Probably the horse from the Haskell, the runner up.
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:36 PM
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The Travers field is hardly a top one historically speaking but it is hard to say that it isnt a pretty good race considering the rash of injuries to higher profile horses recently. At the very least virtually all of the horses in it are likely to continue to run and possibly develop into good 4 yo's though some may be competing in races with numbers next to them as opposed to names.
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:02 AM
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The Travers field is hardly a top one historically speaking but it is hard to say that it isnt a pretty good race considering the rash of injuries to higher profile horses recently. At the very least virtually all of the horses in it are likely to continue to run and possibly develop into good 4 yo's though some may be competing in races with numbers next to them as opposed to names.
Again, I think that a lot of the disagreement is that some want to say that it's good because it's the best of what's left and others want to say it's no good because the horses aren't good.

I also don't think that the odds of any of them developing into good 4yos is too high. That doesn't mean that some of them might not become major stakes winners though. Someone has got to win the races and when all of the top horses are gone, there's a vacuum that needs to be filled. I mentioned men's track. If Bolt, Gatlin, Blake, etc., all retire, that doesn't mean that the guy that wins the world title developed into a good runner. There's a huge difference between best of what's left and actual good.
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Old 08-24-2012, 04:36 PM
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Ok.
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Let me ask this, why should anyone believe these east coast horses are on the same level as those from Cali? They've been getting slapped around all year in the big races.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:06 PM
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Let me ask this, why should anyone believe these east coast horses are on the same level as those from Cali? They've been getting slapped around all year in the big races.
I get this. I was on Secret Circle and Creative Cause very early on. Love Bode and Paynter. I get it, but I dont think its just that clear cut.
Liason stinks. He came east and his Dandy was nothing special. Nonios has only been a head and 1/2 length ahead of him out in Cali. I know Nonios ran well at Monmouth, but he was never winning that race. He kinda just sucked up IMO. Ill use him out of respect for you and a few other people who like him, a lot. And because while I think Alpha is OK, I know the pace was super soft last time. Alpha was actually a horse I liked a lot more with Hansen in. Better price and trip on Alpha had Hansen been in here. Nonios can clearly win. I love the way JV is riding. FIgure to sit close. I guess there really is no reasson to be against him.
Good Luck tomorrow, well today at this point. BTW I saw your comment about Castellano over on PA. The guy is a joke. His move last Saturday on that #9 horse from Monmouth, the horse was cutting back. I forgot the name. But he hearded out into the 2 or 3 and let the NY bred who I was totally against re rally/wire. Cost me an OK double. Im kinda sick of Castellano.
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