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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Which of these countries is currently operating a stable economy?

The ones that do not buy into "austerity". See double-dip recession, England.

The world economy was tanked by the possessors of most of the money being reckless. That's pretty simply and apparent, no? LIBOR?

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Originally Posted by Riot

The ones that do not buy into "austerity". See double-dip recession, England.

The world economy was tanked by the possessors of most of the money being reckless. That's pretty simply and apparent, no? LIBOR?

Specific countries, please with facts and figures about how well they are doing financially.

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Specific countries, please with facts and figures about how well they are doing financially.

Read a newspaper.

What specifically are you looking for? You denying the fact that the available money in the (free) world has never been more stratified to the possession of an upper class of elite that run our governments and banks, set their own interest rates and own the laws? You think that is not true?

Look at the larger picture - you're down in the weeds of "which economies are specifically doing well and by how many dollars" That wasn't my point.

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Originally Posted by Riot

Read a newspaper.

What specifically are you looking for? You denying the fact that the available money in the (free) world has never been more stratified to the possession of an upper class of elite that run our governments and banks, set their own interest rates and own the laws? You think that is not true?

Look at the larger picture - you're down in the weeds of "which economies are specifically doing well and by how many dollars" That wasn't my point.

You said other countries have better ways of life for their citizens, I would like to know if any of those countries with all the happy people that do not have to work very hard are doing well financially. I choose not to read a newspaper to prove your point, I would like you to prove your point.
If we need to sacrifice what remains of this once great country for everyone to be happy I would like to see the future represented in one of the many countries you are suggesting we emulate.
Please?

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

You said other countries have better ways of life for their citizens, I would like to know if any of those countries with all the happy people that do not have to work very hard are doing well financially. I choose not to read a newspaper to prove your point, I would like you to prove your point.
If we need to sacrifice what remains of this once great country for everyone to be happy I would like to see the future represented in one of the many countries you are suggesting we emulate.
Please?

I already provided two links for you to review, regarding what I was talking about, and the other countries I am referencing.

YOU changed the subject completely to a new topic, "which of these countries are currently operating on a stable economy", which is not anything I was discussing.

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Originally Posted by Riot

I already provided two links for you to review, regarding what I was talking about, and the other countries I am referencing.

YOU changed the subject completely to a new topic, "which of these countries are currently operating on a stable economy", which is not anything I was discussing.

SO as long as the quality of life for citizens is good, the effect on the economy is irrelevant. Got it, thank you.

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

SO as long as the quality of life for citizens is good, the effect on the economy is irrelevant. Got it, thank you.

No. That's not what I said at all, and you know it.

I was discussing overall quality of life and opportunity in various countries, and I provided two links for you to read regarding what I was discussing. And that certainly includes how economies approportion their income to their citizens.

You clearly didn't read the links, and do not understand what I am talking about.

YOU, instead, have changed the subject to current specific economic conditions in various countries, and are angry I'm not spoon-feeding you subject material on something I didn't bring up?

No. Get your head into the right conversation.

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America: we could choose to invest in ourselves, in a good life for all of us (except I truly think we feel too guilty to do so, due to our crazy Puritan religious roots) for our country, or continue with "not". Continue to be angry, resentful, selfish, hoarding, envious, class-religion-color-stratified ...

http://www.bluezones.com/programs/bl...s-communities/

World Happiness Report
http://www.earth.columbia.edu/articles/view/2960

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Originally Posted by Riot

America: we could choose to invest in ourselves, in a good life for all of us (except I truly think we feel too guilty to do so, due to our crazy Puritan religious roots) for our country, or continue with "not". Continue to be angry, resentful, selfish, hoarding, envious, class-religion-color-stratified ...

http://www.bluezones.com/programs/bl...s-communities/

World Happiness Report
http://www.earth.columbia.edu/articles/view/2960

http://www.bluezones.com/programs/bl...of-california/

My sister-in-law runs this program, not sure what it has to do with other countries. People in that area tend to be very happy as long as they are wealthy.
The poor seem to be some of the worst I have seen outside of Baltimore.

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

http://www.bluezones.com/programs/bl...of-california/

My sister-in-law runs this program, not sure what it has to do with other countries. People in that area tend to be very happy as long as they are wealthy.
The poor seem to be some of the worst I have seen outside of Baltimore.

I'm talking about Blue Zones in all the countries of the world, not just Loma Linda. I am talking about overall quality of life in a country, of a people, including the World Happiness Quotient/Measure, not only focusing on one's income.

I am talking about what countries can use their income (taxes, money) to do for their citizens, and what we as the citizens should choose to spend our combined societal money upon, to gain a better country for everyone in it.

We, in America, have gone into massive debt to fight wars. Imagine if we, instead over those eight years, had used that money on us: our education, technology, alleviating poverty, making life in the US better for all of us, by measures that are proven to provide good quality of life and happiness in many other places in the world. Ensuring all Americans have health care, food, shelter, education, thus opportunity to live and work in a fulfilling, happy life with free time, relaxation, family.

That's pretty cool about your sister-in-law, she works at the hospital in Loma Linda? Or for Blue Zone Project? What "program" does she run?

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Originally Posted by Riot

That's pretty cool about your sister-in-law, she works at the hospital in Loma Linda? Or for Blue Zone Project? What "program" does she run?

She runs Beach Cities Health District as CMO. Video below.

http://sciencestage.com/v/61490/blue...blue-zone.html

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

She runs Beach Cities Health District as CMO. Video below.

http://sciencestage.com/v/61490/blue...blue-zone.html

Thanks! Love the TED talks, and her's was great. Plus, that's exactly what I am talking about - I agree with her entirely. She is talking primarily about the medical viewpoint, but it's all the same "environment"

TED ManhattanBeach - Lisa Santora - Finding Out Why We Do Not Live In A Blue Zone Dr Lisa Santora talks about her career as a Primary Care Physician and her growing realization that despite he passion for her vocation she needed to change the environment that her patients lived.

Yes, we need to change our environment: and we, as the collective society known as America, who elects our government to do our wishes, can choose to do that. In America we control our own destiny. We can choose to make basic food and basic shelter a given: affordable via a minimum wage that is livable. We can choose that health care will never be a concern for any of us, it's a given.

If your food, shelter and healthcare are a given, that will never be unavailable to you, or out of financial reach - imagine the freedom from worry, the enabling that's available for you to soar - to study, learn, create, make a business, enjoy your family, etc. To enjoy living a life.

Why don't we, America, choose to make this our societal norm? It's crazy!

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PS - getting back to the subject of the thread ... speculation that Harry Reid's source regarding Romney's tax returns will go public on his own 1 day before the GOP convention starts, taking all the media wind out of the GOP convention.