Proposed weight breaks for horses not using lasix

[Calzone Lord]

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/wgoh/...-mitchell.aspx

5lbs handicap for less than 7 furlongs.

4lbs handicap for 7-to-9 furlongs.

3lbs handicap for beyond 9 furlongs.


I remember when they introduced New York Breds getting weight breaks when they faced opens. I think they even got the weight breaks when they faced opens in Graded Stakes around the time of Carson Hollow.

[Calzone Lord]

This is a great idea.

Make it even more simple -- a weight break of 5lbs at all distances for horses who don't use lasix -- issue solved.

Try to give connections an incentive to not use lasix on a horse who doesn't need it -- the same way you try to give them an incentive to ride inexperienced jockeys.

[Indian Charlie]

A better incentive would be to give a purse boost to those who race without it.

[cmorioles]

A lot of journeymen riders won't make the lower weight, so it will be moot many times.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

A lot of journeymen riders won't make the lower weight, so it will be moot many times.

Good point. How about raising the base assigned weight 2 or 3 lbs and then giving the 5 lb credit for non-lasix? That should make it easier for most riders to make non-lasix weight.

As Calzone said, giving a weight break to non-lasix horses is simple and creates the right incentive. Also, it doesn't cost the track anything, as opposed to a purse incentive.

--Dunbar

[Riot]

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[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

A lot of journeymen riders won't make the lower weight, so it will be moot many times.

True.

I suppose they could simply make lasix a 5lbs penalty in all races where base weight is 122lbs or less, instead of a 5lbs break in weight.

Making horses carry 131lbs to run on lasix in the Kentucky Derby or Belmont Stakes -- that wouldn't go over well with a lot of big-name trainers.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

A lot of journeymen riders won't make the lower weight, so it will be moot many times.

Give them lasix

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Give them lasix

[Round Pen]

What a great Study that had to Be. Yep lasix makes them Faster. It has to make you laugh if you really believe that. Come on Folks Surely You see why this Study is absolutely Bogus. It is so easy to see I am Not even Going to tell you what it is.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Give them lasix

We can't, it is on the banned substance list for human athletes.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Give them lasix