Pletcher's stock

[RockHardTen1985]

Hate to burst everyones bubble, but they are not beating the 9 in the baby race today. My only bet of the day....$50 to win.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Hate to burst everyones bubble, but they are not beating the 9 in the baby race today. My only bet of the day....$50 to win.

Yes, they are.

[Rudeboyelvis]

There is now a 100% chance that my bubble will remain intact.

[Calzone Lord]

Violette has had killer numbers with babies going all the way back to '98 -- and this one today isn't slow with the running start (was an 8k yearling turned 40k 2yo) -- but considering the stock he gets, this is not one of the ones of his you'd want and this one doesn't figure to be a fast breaker either. Maybe a look 2nd time out on the drop to high priced MCL.

[pointman]

Looks like the opening weekend disaster for Pletcher has come to an end.

[outofthebox]

From all the 2yo's TAP started off with last year, Gemologist is all he had left standing for the summer classics? Cmon man!

[Calzone Lord]

Pletcher with 2yo first-time starters at Saratoga:

31-for-151 (21% wins and $1.71 ROI)


Pletcher with all horses age 3 and up:

70-for-374 (19% wins and $1.27 ROI)


That's a 36.5% loss on every dollar bet -- from a 5-year sample. Way more than double the takeout.


Any horse he had who ran well at Gulfstream Park -- is an especially terrible bet at Saratoga.

[ADJMK]

What with Pletcher these days. Horses showing up with works in .59 , .47. etc. What happened to the cookie cutter works of .49, 1.02 for every horse. Change in training style ?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Hate to burst everyones bubble, but they are not beating the 9 in the baby race today. My only bet of the day....$50 to win.

How is your bubble bubba?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

How is your bubble bubba?

burst

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

How is your bubble bubba?

Blown up. Dropped 50 on that race.

[pmacdaddy]

Any thoughts on the 4th tomorrow?

Pletcher has a firster and Coach AJ. Coach AJ shows a Turf work on 7/23. Not sure what to make of that, if anything.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by pmacdaddy

Any thoughts on the 4th tomorrow?

Pletcher has a firster and Coach AJ. Coach AJ shows a Turf work on 7/23. Not sure what to make of that, if anything.

1 and 6 are A'S.
The 5 is a B.
Everyone else is a toss.
Goodluck.

[ateamstupid]

Park City supposedly is a good one.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Park City supposedly is a good one.

Really good. So good Lukas is likely going to an X for me. Asmussen on the other hand is hard to toss 2nd time out. Plus hes having a big meet.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Park City supposedly is a good one.

A rare good piece of info in a Saratoga baby race - nice. . . tricky trip too. Suprised how dead on the board he was.

[Calzone Lord]

I'm passing the race.

Lukas looks best of the experienced runners but his numbers are just brutal. The only debuter is a Pletcher that has had decent workout reports...but wasn't a 2yo sale horse.

[MISTERGEE]

interesting debut tomorrow--Mth R1-Cut Class Trip-$125k purchase at OBS, in for 10k first time out

2yo with I believe great future in the Florida Stallion tomorrow-Putyourdreamsaway

[pointman]

Originally Posted by pmacdaddy

Any thoughts on the 4th tomorrow?

Pletcher has a firster and Coach AJ. Coach AJ shows a Turf work on 7/23. Not sure what to make of that, if anything.

1,5,6 are X's. Work from there Pat.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by pointman

1,5,6 are X's. Work from there Pat.

Its gotta be getting old. Plus your way more clever. And your starting to sound like IC. Do the research, you dont want to sound like him.