Pletcher's stock

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Klaravich/Wesley Ward is a match made in heaven. I can't believe it hasn't happened yet.

I dunno. Ward's specialty is getting extremely cheap, presumably crooked yearlings as cranked up as possible as early as possible. Like Doug said, Klarman/Lawrence pay big for poorly bred 2yo sale speedsters.

I've said it before - I don't understand how a guy like Klarman who's a brilliant investor doesn't see something wrong with his program and try to switch it up a bit. I guess spreading horses out to other trainers has helped marginally, but it still hasn't been enough.

Also, back to the topic of the thread, I don't understand why any owner besides the big guys would send a horse to Pletcher. There are so many comparable trainers out there who can give your horse closer attention and not have to worry about ducking seven of his other trainees for any race.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I dunno. Ward's specialty is getting extremely cheap, presumably crooked yearlings as cranked up as possible as early as possible. Like Doug said, Klarman/Lawrence pay big for poorly bred 2yo sale speedsters.

I've said it before - I don't understand how a guy like Klarman who's a brilliant investor doesn't see something wrong with his program and try to switch it up a bit. I guess spreading horses out to other trainers has helped marginally, but it still hasn't been enough.

My point is both 'programs' don't mind sacrificing a horse's longevity to try to get them to win early and often. Obviously Klaravich has better stock and thus can keep one around occasionally.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

My point is both 'programs' don't mind sacrificing a horse's longevity to try to get them to win early and often. Obviously Klaravich has better stock and thus can keep one around occasionally.

In the case of Klaravich -- the horse's longevity has already been sacrificed before he buys them.

His MO is to buy often cheaply bred, often poorly conformed, often very fast horses that have been drilled ruthlessly hard by pin-hookers and light it up at 2yo sales.

Basically, several thousand of these cheap yearlings are given the Todd Marinovich treatment and pushed very hard to try and light it up at a 2yo sale. Klaravich has often targeted the cream of the crop of the cheapies. The ones who flash the most early brilliance and most exceed expectations at sprinting a short distance.

Take Carried Interest for instance -- the horse Dave Grenning called the best looking 2yo prospect in NY so far this year -- that horse is sired by Henny Hughes. The dam of that horse never won a race and bore out and was eased in it's fourth and final career start. Carried Interest worked an 1/8th in 10 flat despite being green at OBS and sold for 190K

By the time Rick Violette and Teresa Pompay get these type of horses, they've already been developed by someone else.

Guys like Bill Mott who have a reputation for developing horses will occasionally get the same type of horse ... and they do terrible with them because they don't always try to strike while the irons hot and they rarely get any development out of them by backing off.