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Old 06-22-2012, 11:12 AM
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The horse was sold with four drugs in it's system, that, first, must be revealed on a pre-purchase exam if the seller is simply specifically asked, "has the horse had a tranquilizer or painkiller?" and secondly, are a non-medical hodgepodge of painkiller and sedatives not used as a ridiculous cocktail.

When you purchase a horse, it's "buyer beware" 100% of the time. This buyer was smart. The seller was a cheat.

Romney was the owner. The owner is responsible for what his trainer, or his vet, put into the horse, whether he knows about it or not.

There is no way any owner paying the bills would not know this horse was being drugged sound. Before any sale was considered.

Try to explain this away and stand up for Romney. It won't go anywhere. Putting his dog on a crate on the top of the car is nothing compared to the fraud and deceit of selling a lame horse, that has been drugged to mask the lamenesses, for $125,000.
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Old 06-22-2012, 11:26 AM
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What Quiet is doing is damage control for her God. You see, her God was caught shipping guns to Mexico in order to fuel media propaganda for a gun ban. The sycophants can deflect, defend, attack all they want. Those are the indisputable facts for normal human beings who aren't in a high fructose corn syrup induced coma.

While doing this obvious damage control she abandons humanity and puts one horse above Mexicans and border patrol agents.


For shame. But that's the type of evil we're dealing with.
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Old 06-22-2012, 11:29 AM
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When you combine Xylazine or detomidine or romifidine with butorphenol, you get nice pain control and sedation. With no ataxia (stumbling, tripping, falling over.. how would you know...this does explain a few things..
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Old 06-22-2012, 11:32 AM
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When you combine Xylazine or detomidine or romifidine with butorphenol, you get nice pain control and sedation. With no ataxia (stumbling, tripping, falling over.. how would you know...this does explain a few things..
I know because I have the DEA license for dispensing those drugs, I know what drugs we use together, and why, and what their effects are.

Your bu.lls.h.ait attempt to imply I'm a cheater is just that - ignorant bull.shi.at.

And there's nothing more pathetic than watching some of you, those who pretend hate those evil cheating race trainers that take your gambling money, try and justify the exact same fraud in Mitt Romney's world.

This has nothing to do with politics. This has nothing to do with Fast and Furious. This, too, has nothing at all to do with Obama, or Buddy Roemer, or Ron Paul. This is not politics. It goes to the man's - Mitt Romney's - ethics and morals.

You guys put your politics before horses? Nice.
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:25 PM
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I know because I have the DEA license for dispensing those drugs, I know what drugs we use together, and why, and what their effects are.

Your bu.lls.h.ait attempt to imply I'm a cheater is just that - ignorant bull.shi.at.

And there's nothing more pathetic than watching some of you, those who pretend hate those evil cheating race trainers that take your gambling money, try and justify the exact same fraud in Mitt Romney's world.

This has nothing to do with politics. This has nothing to do with Fast and Furious. This, too, has nothing at all to do with Obama, or Buddy Roemer, or Ron Paul. This is not politics. It goes to the man's - Mitt Romney's - ethics and morals.

You guys put your politics before horses? Nice.
Wow - your little tirade, I thought, based on this:
""Romney is scum.

I don't care if he didn't know about this, and the trainer had a vet do it, or more likely, chose to do it his self, without the Romney's knowledge (very common, unfortunately) - it's cheating, it's fraud, it's deception, it's theft by deception, and worse, it's dangerous for the horse, for the rider.""


Was to attempt to assassinate his character - Ok fine you may have a point.

Then, when someone points out how Obama is responsible for over 2000 firearms being walked over the border specifically to be put in the hands of the drug cartels, many of which have turned up at violent crime scenes on both sides of the border and are responsible for at least 2 murders of US Border Patrol agents - that says nothing about his character? That just politics?

You're in rare form today.
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:45 PM
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Wow - your little tirade, I thought, based on this:
""Romney is scum.

I don't care if he didn't know about this, and the trainer had a vet do it, or more likely, chose to do it his self, without the Romney's knowledge (very common, unfortunately) - it's cheating, it's fraud, it's deception, it's theft by deception, and worse, it's dangerous for the horse, for the rider.""


Was to attempt to assassinate his character - Ok fine you may have a point.

Then, when someone points out how Obama is responsible for over 2000 firearms being walked over the border specifically to be put in the hands of the drug cartels, many of which have turned up at violent crime scenes on both sides of the border and are responsible for at least 2 murders of US Border Patrol agents - that says nothing about his character? That just politics?

You're in rare form today.
Hey - I'm appalled you haven't said anything about Guantanamo or Halliburton in this thread. You are in rare form today, too BTW, this thread isn't about Fast and Furious, it's about Romney.

And before you defend Romney, I strong suggest you read the entire complaint, too. I doubt you'll want to go on much offense with this one.
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The buyer's vet admitted giving the horse tranquilizers to x-ray it. Can't remember what ones he gave or if he gave it to the horse before he took the drug screen. He also failed to mention it to the buyer. I agree the buyer has a case-against the vet THEY hired to do the purchase exam.
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:44 PM
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Hey - I'm appalled you haven't said anything about Guantanamo or Halliburton in this thread. You are in rare form today, too BTW, this thread isn't about Fast and Furious, it's about Romney.
No - Wrong. It is about Romney's character - you've made that clear - you called him a "Serial Liar" and "Scum".

"This is not politics. It goes to the man's - Mitt Romney's - ethics and morals."

You don't like the guy - we all get it - you clearly feel he has a lack of ethics and morals - CHARACTER issues

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WaaWHAATT!!? When did I ever defend him? In fact I agreed with you that you may well have a valid point.

You see, I don't know - I tend to wait for facts to be presented before I rush to judgement...That what us adults do. When you grow up, perhaps you will understand. I don't have the time nor the inclination to "read the actual complaint" so I simply concede your point. Again, what adults do.

What I do know for a fact, is that your criminal in the white house has more blood of innocent civilians on his hands than any president in memory.
Besides the 100's if not 1000's of innocent people he has killed by violating 50 years of international law - to the Americans he has killed by knowingly putting guns in the hands of criminals and pointing them straight at US citizens.

Those are facts. I merely pointed out that it seemed hypocritical to have such disdain for Romney's Character, yet embrace Obama as some sort of deity.
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:28 PM
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When you combine Xylazine or detomidine or romifidine with butorphenol, you get nice pain control and sedation. With no ataxia (stumbling, tripping, falling over.. how would you know...this does explain a few things..


wow, what a fargin cheapshot that was. "them's fightin words in my country. but we're not in my country." - Shemp Howard
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:40 PM
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It's sad that when you guys have nothing at all regarding the subject, some of you immediately resort to insulting and attacking the messenger

"Ad hominem - it's for losers"

I suggest you guys click on the Buzzfeed link, and read the actual testimony from the expert witness yourselves. It gets good about page 12-14, but you'll need the background.

This was clearly not dismissed as "there was no case".

The horse had documented severe low ringbone for years, was lame and injected for years, was known as lame, was not showing for some time at the time of sale.

The horse was drugged to help him pass a pre-purchase (the trainer probably added something on top of what the vet did), sold for $125,000 as an upper level dressage horse - a job he was physically unable to perform without drugs - and the pre-purchase vet didn't do due diligence to the purchaser, as his agency required - he worked for the Romney side.

This is the perfect example of why you always look a gift horse in the mouth and get second opinions. And you never, ever use only the seller's vet. This is a cheating owner, trainer and vet taking $125,000 from a purchaser to get rid of a useless, lame horse.

A purchaser who was smart enough to get a second opinion and catch them. And take them to court.

There is zero justification for this on Romney's behalf. It shows he is completely unethical in his business dealings, and worse, that he'll misuse an animal for money.
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What Quiet is doing is damage control for her God. You see, her God was caught shipping guns to Mexico in order to fuel media propaganda for a gun ban. The sycophants can deflect, defend, attack all they want. Those are the indisputable facts for normal human beings who aren't in a high fructose corn syrup induced coma.

While doing this obvious damage control she abandons humanity and puts one horse above Mexicans and border patrol agents.


For shame. But that's the type of evil we're dealing with.

exactly that F&F thing is a total disgrace and that turd Holder can't man up and take responsibility and neither can the turd in the White House.
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:41 PM
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exactly that F&F thing is a total disgrace and that turd Holder can't man up and take responsibility and neither can the turd in the White House.
Actually that turd Holder wanted to give Issa viewing of multiple documents, on top of the thousands he's already willingly given to the Committee, and Issa refused. Issa voted for Fast and Furious to start under the Bush administration, btw.
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What Quiet is doing is damage control for her God. You see, her God was caught shipping guns to Mexico in order to fuel media propaganda for a gun ban. The sycophants can deflect, defend, attack all they want. Those are the indisputable facts for normal human beings who aren't in a high fructose corn syrup induced coma.

While doing this obvious damage control she abandons humanity and puts one horse above Mexicans and border patrol agents.


For shame. But that's the type of evil we're dealing with.
speaking of fast and furious...
i see the house oversight committee wants to charge holder with contempt. and that obama invoked executive privilege to withold documents and communications among D of J officials. always a comforting sign from our elected officials.

but that's not important. that pales in comparison to a horse once owned by a candidate's wife.
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speaking of fast and furious...
i see the house oversight committee wants to charge holder with contempt. and that obama invoked executive privilege to withold documents and communications among D of J officials. always a comforting sign from our elected officials.

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Actually, Holder has already given Issa over 7,000 documents, and told Issa the committee could look at the additional specific documents they want - they just don't want copies of those documents to be released to the public. Issa refused that offer of looking.

After all, Issa swore he'd hold a hearing a day on the Obama administration from when the President was elected. Issa hasn't been able to come up with much, though.

Darryl Issa will teach the Obama administration a lesson for cancelling a Bush gun running program. Issa voted for Fast and Furious when it started under Bush.

I think the contempt vote in the House is next week.
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speaking of fast and furious...
i see the house oversight committee wants to charge holder with contempt. and that obama invoked executive privilege to withold documents and communications among D of J officials. always a comforting sign from our elected officials.

but that's not important. that pales in comparison to a horse once owned by a candidate's wife.


as allways, riot makes her salient point..i can bash who i want .take things out of context at will,produce a pie chart that backs my insane opinion..romney is scum. obama is god. all he needs is to 'finish the work hes started'....wake the **** up..he has created no new jobs.he ruined our kids future.hes played 100 rounds of golf in his 4 years.i myself would vote for my pet min pin cooper before obama...
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hes singing to you riot...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6uHR90Sq6k


just ......you..
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5tqH7UrzOw

i mean.whats wrong with this 4 more years..
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speaking of fast and furious...
i see the house oversight committee wants to charge holder with contempt. and that obama invoked executive privilege to withold documents and communications among D of J officials. always a comforting sign from our elected officials.

but that's not important. that pales in comparison to a horse once owned by a candidate's wife.
What is really interesting is the White House had 8 months to claim executive privilege and waited to the last second to do it. What are they hiding? Seems to me that doing this indicates that this may extend right to the emperor himself.

Oh, and
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What is really interesting is the White House had 8 months to claim executive privilege and waited to the last second to do it. What are they hiding? Seems to me that doing this indicates that this may extend right to the emperor himself.

Oh, and
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The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) ran a series of "gunwalking" sting operations between 2006 and 2011. This was done under the umbrella of Project Gunrunner, a project intended to stem the flow of firearms into Mexico by interdicting straw purchasers and gun traffickers within the United States. "Gunwalking" or "letting guns walk" was a tactic whereby the ATF knowingly allowed thousands of guns to be bought by suspected arms traffickers ("gunrunners") working through straw purchasers on behalf of Mexican drug cartels.
Nice that Darryl Issa - who voted for the Meridia Initiative, and multiple approvals under Project Gunrunner for President Bush - is just now worried about guns that were walked into Mexico and given to drug cartels. How dare the Obama administration stop a Bush-approved ATF project because it was crap.
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There is no way any owner paying the bills would not know this horse was being drugged sound.
Right. No way.
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