I'll Have Another injured, withdrawn, retired..

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

[mclem0822]

Absolutely terrible news, they did such a great job with this horse and damn well deserved a shot at history! Really sad for Doug and the connections, and for racing as well.

[joeydb]

I'm bummed out.

[tanner12oz]

not to sound like a conspiracy theorist but i think there is a chance that people knew about this well before it was leaked to the media...this whole experience has been obviously very fun for oneil and wouldnt be surprised at all if he milked it for an extra day or two...obviously nyra has a rooting interest in the milking also to improve attendance, handle, etc etc

not saying it happened but i could see it happening for sure

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Riot

werds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6FUR_nhGX8

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by tanner12oz

not to sound like a conspiracy theorist but i think there is a chance that people knew about this well before it was leaked to the media...this whole experience has been obviously very fun for oneil and wouldnt be surprised at all if he milked it for an extra day or two...obviously nyra has a rooting interest in the milking also to improve attendance, handle, etc etc

not saying it happened but i could see it happening for sure

well, they blew that then, didn't they?! they should have waited til post time to scratch, that way attendance wouldn't be affected.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by tanner12oz

not to sound like a conspiracy theorist but i think there is a chance that people knew about this well before it was leaked to the media...this whole experience has been obviously very fun for oneil and wouldnt be surprised at all if he milked it for an extra day or two...obviously nyra has a rooting interest in the milking also to improve attendance, handle, etc etc

not saying it happened but i could see it happening for sure

O'Neill publicly said he noticed some heat yesterday afternoon, and galloped the horse this am with him being safely held by Lava Man, and then called the vet, who put an ultrasound on it and say, 'Yeah, looks like the start of mild tendonitis. If you run him, we'll hurt the tendon. He needs time off".

Good grief - this is what normally happens with these things. It's the way it normally goes, in good barns that keep a good close eye on their horses.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by tanner12oz

not to sound like a conspiracy theorist but i think there is a chance that people knew about this well before it was leaked to the media...this whole experience has been obviously very fun for oneil and wouldnt be surprised at all if he milked it for an extra day or two...obviously nyra has a rooting interest in the milking also to improve attendance, handle, etc etc

not saying it happened but i could see it happening for sure

Look at you, the man can't fool a genius like you. It is all a big conspiracy. In fact the latest rumor is that Jimmy Hoffa's body is buried underneath IHA's stall.

[Danzig]

i wasn't bummed at all, til just now reading the latest on bh. he could return in 3-6 months but

'he's done so much'....no, he hasn't. it's a shame, this more than anything, about racing any more. you win a couple races, and off you go.
i guess there's no point bewailing the current scheme of things....but i feel that less than 10 starts in a career hampers this sport. there's no horse to build up a following-the ones that do get fans only run a few times a year, not enough to keep fans coming back, to get fans 'hooked' on the sport.
bah

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by tanner12oz

not to sound like a conspiracy theorist but i think there is a chance that people knew about this well before it was leaked to the media...this whole experience has been obviously very fun for oneil and wouldnt be surprised at all if he milked it for an extra day or two...obviously nyra has a rooting interest in the milking also to improve attendance, handle, etc etc

not saying it happened but i could see it happening for sure

Tickets (actual seats) were sold out by the Monday morning after the Preakness.

Just imagine if they had the campaign of Black Caviar...which isn't that aggressive. They would probably demand reporters bow in front of them before the press conference/retirement party.

[OldDog]

Crushing reaction to scratch of I'll Have Another
06/08/2012 3:02 PM ET

by Steve Myrick

Shocking. Devastating. Unbelievable. Hellacious. Just a few of the words racing insiders used to describe the drama unfolding at Belmont Park as news spread of dual classic winner I'll Have Another's scratch from the Belmont Stakes (G1) and subsequent retirement.

Trainer Doug O'Neill's stable colors are black, an eerie foretelling of the somber mood as grooms and stable hands arrived at the detention barn, dressed in black hats, shirts, and jackets, shortly after their boss began speaking at a hastily called news conference. None offered any comment on their thoughts, but the crushing disappointment was evident on their faces as they consoled each other.

Near the Belmont Park paddock, Racing Hall of Fame trainer Jack Van Berg was chatting with Triple Crown winning trainer Billy Turner soon after the word began to spread.

Van Berg said this kind of injury is what keeps trainers up at night.

"It will keep you awake," Van Berg said. "It's a crying shame."

Turner had little trouble empathizing with O'Neill. In 1977, he brought Seattle Slew to the Belmont Stakes with a Triple Crown on the line.

"That's the biggest worry you have," Turner said. "I had a monster horse, coming into this thing undefeated. All the way through the whole campaign I was never confident, because I was always worried that something just like this would pop up. A cough, a nick, a bang, a bruise someplace, and you're finished."

Trainer Kiaran McLaughlin echoed the thoughts of many who were hoping the racing game would get a boost from the Triple Crown quest.

"It's not an easy game that we chose," McLaughlin said. "A sad day in racing worldwide. Very disappointing for everybody involved. For the whole industry, a sad day. Luckily he's OK, he'll go and stand stud, and we'll be going for the Triple Crown next year."

Cot Campbell, who heads Dogwood Stable, found the news almost too hard to believe.

"It's so sickening you can't even believe it's happening," Campbell said. "You couldn't have written a more ghastly scenario. The whole nation has been excited about this. This was a big chance to give racing a big boost. It's one of those things, but it's one of those things that's hellacious to take."

http://www.equibase.com/racingnews/article/View.cfm

[AlreadyHome]

this suckssssssss

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by tanner12oz

not to sound like a conspiracy theorist but i think there is a chance that people knew about this well before it was leaked to the media...this whole experience has been obviously very fun for oneil and wouldnt be surprised at all if he milked it for an extra day or two...obviously nyra has a rooting interest in the milking also to improve attendance, handle, etc etc

not saying it happened but i could see it happening for sure

The only people benefitting from this scenario would be the scalpers.

[Travis Stone]

I did a radio show interview with an ESPN station here in Louisiana this morning and the third or fourth question was about the detention barn. The host, obviously a non-racing fan said, "This sounds like something they should be doing all of the time?"

I thought that was an interesting question and shows how a lot of people perceive this sport outside our circle of core fans.

[Calzone Lord]

I did the AM Sports talk show here today -- the first question I was asked was what I made of the developments of today with I'll Have Another scratching.

I told him -- "Unbelievable. Horse racing fans everywhere got kicked in the balls today"

He brought up "doping" towards the very end of the interview. Interestingly, he phrased his question this way "why is such a big deal being made of doping this year? Hasn't doping been going on forever in sports like cycling and horse racing?"

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i wasn't bummed at all, til just now reading the latest on bh. he could return in 3-6 months but

'he's done so much'....no, he hasn't. it's a shame, this more than anything, about racing any more. you win a couple races, and off you go.
i guess there's no point bewailing the current scheme of things....but i feel that less than 10 starts in a career hampers this sport. there's no horse to build up a following-the ones that do get fans only run a few times a year, not enough to keep fans coming back, to get fans 'hooked' on the sport.
bah

Exactly right, Danzig. How rich does an owner have to be before the enjoyment of watching his own top-notch horse race takes precedence over making money from stud?

--Dunbar

[richard]

We've got Shackleford, Caixa Eletronica in the True North, Brilliant Speed in the Woodford.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by richard

We've got Shackleford, Caixa Eletronica in the True North, Brilliant Speed in the Woodford.

Quick turnaround for Shackleford, huh?

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

Exactly right, Danzig. How rich does an owner have to be before the enjoyment of watching his own top-notch horse race takes precedence over making money from stud?

--Dunbar

I don't blame him one bit. Wish we'd get to see IHA again, but I don't blame Reddam here. It's not like this is a perfectly healthy or mildly injured 3yo. It's a tendon injury which requires a long layoff and recovery. If he won't be ready to race til May at the earliest, and even then might not be back to his old form, it's hardly unreasonable for them to want go out on a high note of a dual classic win. What if he came back, won a minor race, then bowed a tendon? How is that worth it to anyone?