Wisconsin Recall

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Please prove where Govenor Walker's budget repair bill cut pensions and benefits (Current pensions are guaranteed under law and can't be changed).

That's not what I said. Pay attention and stop changing the subject.

Clip-Clop said no pensions or benefits were cut to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy. Walker's budget did exactly that. Act 10 increased the personal contributions of workers to their pensions and benefits, decreasing the state contributions, and those state monies - monies gained where pension and benefit contributions were cut by the state - went to tax cuts.

Walker screwed the unions, to give tax cuts.

Thank goodness the Democrats have taken over the state Senate. Now Walker can't call a special session this summer, as he planned, to give that mining bill gift of environmental deregulation to his big donor, and shove through a "right to work for less" bill as he promised his other wealthy donor he would for her (on tape).

The current speculation is that Walker will be indicted by the FBI within 8 weeks.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Riot

That's not what I said. Pay attention and stop changing the subject.

Clip-Clop said no pensions or benefits were cut to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy. Walker's budget did exactly that. Act 10 increased the personal contributions of workers to their pensions and benefits, decreasing the state contributions, and those state monies - monies gained where pension and benefit contributions were cut by the state - went to tax cuts.

Wow, Robinhood, those poor public employees have to pay a small percentage into their pensions and benefits just like workers in the private sector? Then everyone got some tax breaks including those in the private sector who cannot afford to pay for those bloated pensions and benefits that private sector workers can't get? As a result the State Budget Deficit has been cut? Let's not forget about those poor Union leaders who now don't get mandatory dues and now that Union members have a choice and are running away in droves it prevents them from paying themselves ridiculously high salaries and takes away the money to fund the violence and damage to allow them to get even more bloated pensions and benefits!

What an absolute outrage! Those damn Koch brothers are taking over the world, soon there will be only rich people and the incredibly poor wandering the streets without jobs while the rich laugh at them!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

Wow, Robinhood, those poor public employees have to pay a small percentage into their pensions and benefits just like workers in the private sector? Then everyone got some tax breaks including those in the private sector who cannot afford to pay for those bloated pensions and benefits that private sector workers can't get? As a result the State Budget Deficit has been cut?

What an absolute outrage! Those damn Koch brothers are taking over the world, soon there will be only rich people and the incredibly poor wandering the streets without jobs while the rich laugh at them! Let's not forget about those poor Union leaders who now don't get mandatory dues which prevents them from paying themselves ridiculously high salaries and now they don't have money to fund the violence and damage to allow them to get even more!

The Wisconsin state budget deficit has not been cut. The deficit has been hidden by spreading it out over multiple years.

And the average increase in contribution by state workers was $2000 a year. $40 a week pay cut matters to a lot of people - it's a tank of gas, or groceries, or food for your kids. These were cuts the governor asked for, and the unions immediately agreed to.

Walker busted the unions anyway.

And that - busting the unions - is why he, and multiple Republican state senators, were subjected to recall. At least the recall worked as it stopped Walker by turning the Senate from Republican to Democratic.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Riot

The Wisconsin state budget deficit has not been cut. The deficit has been hidden by spreading it out over multiple years.

Are you accusing Wisconsin of using Obama budget accounting methods?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

Are you accusing Wisconsin of using Obama budget accounting methods?

The only question remaining is if Walker will be arrested only on charges relating to Wisconsin law violations during his tenure in Milwaukee county (the arrests already of his employees), or if the FBI does indeed have additional charges of malfeasance in his current Governors office to arrest him on, too.

Rebecca Kleefisch will be the new governor, and that is simply terrifying. She's a loon.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Riot

The only question remaining is if Walker will be arrested only on charges relating to Wisconsin law violations during his tenure in Milwaukee county (the arrests already of his employees), or if the FBI does indeed have additional charges of malfeasance in his current Governors office to arrest him on, too.

Rebecca Kleefisch will be the new governor, and that is simply terrifying. She's a loon.

Alas, the last desperate act of the Democrats in Wisconsin. Hope and pray that Walker gets indicted. Only the loons believe in this.

The People have spoken and you lost.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

Alas, the last desperate act of the Democrats in Wisconsin. Hope and pray that Walker gets indicted. Only the loons believe in this.

The People have spoken and you lost.

Sorry. The Democrats have nothing at all to do with the multiple arrests out of Walker's office. That's the FBI.

BTW: Walker publicly has always said he called in the FBI and asked for the investigation. Walker is a stone cold liar. The release of memos this past weekend prove that Walker stonewalled the investigation as long as he could.

Maybe Walker can get a prison cell with Blagoevitch? Or maybe just with his multiple former employees. It's hard to tell, so many have been charged with felonies, so many have plea-bargained.

The people have indeed spoken and re-elected this lying, deceitful man. Hard to explain what uneducated voters do, but it's their right to be idiots. Hopefully the indictment will come down soon, and Wisconsin can move on from this disaster of this man's participation in politics a the local and state level.