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Old 06-03-2012, 09:36 PM
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What was Spectacular Bid doing in last early -- about 40 lengths off of the early pace?

He's a horse that ran 7 furlongs in 1:20 and change as a 2yo and ran 7 furlongs in 1:20 flat off of a layoff in the Malibu.

He also won in wire-to-wire fashion eight different times in his career -- not including his walkover win in the Woodward.

I'll Have Another beating Spectacular Bid and Sunday Silence is as absurd as the simulation they did where Zenyatta beat Citation, Affirmed, and other greats.
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Old 06-03-2012, 09:50 PM
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In my opinion, Spectacular Bid should be rated as clear-cut the best dirt horse of all-time. It's almost a complete no-brainer.

And I don't think many people have studied as many great horses as I have.

He was an all-time great 2-year-old. An all-time great 3-year-old. An all-time great 4-year-old.

One of the fastest 2yo's in history. One of the fastest 3yo's in history. One of the fastest 4yo's in history.

One of the most traveled and tested horses of the last 50 years.

One of the most tactically versatile horses in history.
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Old 06-03-2012, 10:35 PM
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In my opinion, Spectacular Bid should be rated as clear-cut the best dirt horse of all-time. It's almost a complete no-brainer.

And I don't think many people have studied as many great horses as I have.

He was an all-time great 2-year-old. An all-time great 3-year-old. An all-time great 4-year-old.

One of the fastest 2yo's in history. One of the fastest 3yo's in history. One of the fastest 4yo's in history.

One of the most traveled and tested horses of the last 50 years.

One of the most tactically versatile horses in history.
I just hated this horse. He just destroyed my favorite horse when i was a kid, Flying Paster. Just like the Vikings were to the Rams, i just hated the competition...But i have to admit he is the greatest horse i ever saw in person to this day.
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Old 06-03-2012, 09:57 PM
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What was Spectacular Bid doing in last early -- about 40 lengths off of the early pace?

He's a horse that ran 7 furlongs in 1:20 and change as a 2yo and ran 7 furlongs in 1:20 flat off of a layoff in the Malibu.

He also won in wire-to-wire fashion eight different times in his career -- not including his walkover win in the Woodward.

I'll Have Another beating Spectacular Bid and Sunday Silence is as absurd as the simulation they did where Zenyatta beat Citation, Affirmed, and other greats.
Another bad ride from Ronnie Franklin...

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Old 06-03-2012, 10:07 PM
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Well -- the video game loss did occur at 12 furlongs -- so he remains undefeated at all distances from 6.5 furlongs to 1 1/4 miles.


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Old 06-03-2012, 10:11 PM
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The Bid was a monster no doubt. As I said originally, I think he would crush that field.

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Old 06-03-2012, 10:14 PM
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Here's one of the last 20 Kentucky Derby winners...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K63bPQl1QtU


Obviously, having seen Zenyatta take down Citation and Affirmed and I'll Have Another beat Spectacular Bid ... I knew Barbaro would be a lock in this race.
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Old 06-03-2012, 10:20 PM
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Here's one of the last 20 Kentucky Derby winners...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K63bPQl1QtU


Obviously, having seen Zenyatta take down Citation and Affirmed and I'll Have Another beat Spectacular Bid ... I knew Barbaro would be a lock in this race.
I think Santos blew the turn .
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Old 06-03-2012, 10:56 PM
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The Bid was a monster no doubt. As I said originally, I think he would crush that field.

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Not sure if he would have CRUSHED but, I think he would win 9 out of 10.
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Old 06-03-2012, 10:47 PM
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What was Spectacular Bid doing in last early -- about 40 lengths off of the early pace?

He's a horse that ran 7 furlongs in 1:20 and change as a 2yo and ran 7 furlongs in 1:20 flat off of a layoff in the Malibu.

He also won in wire-to-wire fashion eight different times in his career -- not including his walkover win in the Woodward.

I'll Have Another beating Spectacular Bid and Sunday Silence is as absurd as the simulation they did where Zenyatta beat Citation, Affirmed, and other greats.




spectacular bid was absolutely that-a spectacular horse. he lost the belmont, and we all know why..and suffered only one loss after, to affirmed. he was the last truly great horse that we've seen. others have had their moments, but when you consider what he did all three years he ran, it's simply amazing. many rank secretariat ahead of him because secretariat had such an astounding triple crown run-but i'd say over all, the bid was better. especially when you consider the ratio of starts to wins/losses.
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Old 06-03-2012, 10:56 PM
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Secretariat was better than anyone else in the triple crown series. Whirlaway was probably the closest to him over the series. Whirlaway made a pretty decent crop look like Donkeys and he ran very, very fast in the KY Derby.

Count Fleet didn't have much competition and didn't run big until the Belmont, where he ran a giant race and injured himself...never running again.
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Old 06-04-2012, 07:48 AM
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i believe count fleet won the belmont by 25-the record til secretariat came along. very disappointing that he didn't race after that. no telling what else he would have accomplished.


and i'd have to think war admirals belmont would get a mention as a really good effort-considering he injured himself breaking from the gate. it was a bad enough injury that they thought he might have to be retired.
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