Lasix enhances performance

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

We'll just never see each other's point I guess. To me, you are saying since everyone can be drugged cheaply it is their problem if they don't use it. I'll never agree with that. If Lasix is so great, surely giving five pounds or a 50% edge in claiming prices to those not using isn't a big deal.

Drug the all Chuck, drug them all, that is the spirit.

As for Danzig's post about best for the horse, I've addressed this several times. If you want to believe this sport is about what is best for the horse, I have some prime coast land to sell you here in Oklahoma. I wish it was. I love horses. But we all know that isn't the case the majority of the time. Should I started listing more horses that were treated like disposable tissues?

Whatever...

I always love when people accuse one side of an argument with being stubborn and then make statements like "I'll never agree with that".

As for the welfare of horses I would think that those who profit off of the knowingly abused have blood on thier hands as well...

But dont fret, using lasix isnt really abuse no matter how hard you neutrally rail against it.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

But dont fret, using lasix isnt really abuse no matter how hard you neutrally rail against it.

Cool, keep drugging them all then, whether they need it or not. You have a future in pharmacological sales.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Cool, keep drugging them all then, whether they need it or not. You have a future in pharmacological sales.

That's it, I'm rooting for the Spurs...

When someone comes up with something that works better I'd be glad to stop using lasix. Until then I'm not going to stick my head in the sand and just hope that my horses don't bleed.

Sorry you don't agree but you dont exactly have to worry about real horses, just the theoretically abused ones.

One last time...

If it is a given that lasix helps prevent bleeding and it is a given that it helps reduce the severity of an incident and it is a given that we can't accurately predict when an incident will occur...how do you know who will or wont need it?

Aspirin, a drug is used by millions as preventative medicine and no one seems to have an issue with that.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Aspirin, a drug is used by millions as preventative medicine and no one seems to have an issue with that.

I promised myself I would stay out of this from here on in, but this comment was too naive for me to pass up.

Are you freaking kidding? Aspirin is far from harmless and lots and lots and lots of people have issues with it.

Truth be told, I was going to say idiotic, but in the interest of not being inflammatory I went with naive. Then again, I could just take an NSAID if I get too inflammatory!

Get it??! Aspirin, anti inflammatory, NSAID?? All worked together in one post! Pretty clever if you ask me!!

You should read up on NSAID's sometime.

Lasix and Aspirin are good for you.


Side note: The Doritos Locos Taco Supreme is nutritious and delicious.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Lasix and Aspirin are good for you.


Side note: The Doritos Locos Taco Supreme is nutritious and delicious.

Yo, it's like unicorns in your mouth.

Live mas.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I promised myself I would stay out of this from here on in, but this comment was too naive for me to pass up.

Are you freaking kidding? Aspirin is far from harmless and lots and lots and lots of people have issues with it.

Truth be told, I was going to say idiotic, but in the interest of not being inflammatory I went with naive. Then again, I could just take an NSAID if I get too inflammatory!

Get it??! Aspirin, anti inflammatory, NSAID?? All worked together in one post! Pretty clever if you ask me!!

You should read up on NSAID's sometime.

So the generally medically accepted practice of Doctors prescribing a daily aspirin regime is controversial and unacceptable?

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So the generally medically accepted practice of Doctors prescribing a daily aspirin regime is controversial and unacceptable?

CS, there's plenty of debate about it, and it's not driven by whackos. Google "daily aspirin" for a sample.

Here's a link to the Mayo Clinic's recommendation:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/print/dail...3/METHOD=print

Here's part of what Mayo says:

"You should a daily aspirin only if your doctor advises you to do so. If you have had a heart attack or stroke, your doctor will likely recommend you take a daily aspirin unless you have a serious allergy or history of bleeding. If you have a high risk of having a first heart attack, your doctor might recommend aspirin after weighing the risks and benefits. You shouldn't start daily aspirin therapy on your own.

Although taking an occasional aspirin or two is safe for most adults to use for headaches, body aches or fever, daily use of aspirin can have serious side effects, including internal bleeding. "

--Dunbar

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

CS, there's plenty of debate about it, and it's not driven by whackos. Google "daily aspirin" for a sample.

Here's a link to the Mayo Clinic's recommendation:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/print/dail...3/METHOD=print

Here's part of what Mayo says:

"You should a daily aspirin only if your doctor advises you to do so. If you have had a heart attack or stroke, your doctor will likely recommend you take a daily aspirin unless you have a serious allergy or history of bleeding. If you have a high risk of having a first heart attack, your doctor might recommend aspirin after weighing the risks and benefits. You shouldn't start daily aspirin therapy on your own.

Although taking an occasional aspirin or two is safe for most adults to use for headaches, body aches or fever, daily use of aspirin can have serious side effects, including internal bleeding. "

--Dunbar

Not only does it cause internal bleeding (NSAIDs are particularly well known for causing the liver to bleed!), but that myth that a daily aspirin is 'good' for heart health has been completely debunked.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So the generally medically accepted practice of Doctors prescribing a daily aspirin regime is controversial and unacceptable?

Correct.

In fact, about fifteen years ago I saw, on TV, an FDA regulator say that if aspirin were to be submitted today (15 years ago anyways) for approval as a new drug, it wouldn't pass.

To be fair though, he said it would not pass because they didn't fully understand it's mechanism. Or how it worked in the body.

Of all drugs, aspirin is probably the least harmful, but it causes a lot of problems for a lot of people. Did you read up on NSAID's yet?