I'll Have Another's value as a stallion if he sweeps the Triple Crown

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Yikes.

Creative Cause beat I'll Have Another at 6.5 furlongs in the Best Pal at age 2. Only a nose seperated them at 9 furlongs in the Santa Anita Derby.

Basically -- uncommonly run classic distances are the only thing separating these two horses on actual racing ability. 99.5% of the races in this country are run at 9fs or less.

In terms of the other areas -- Creative Cause owns I'll Have Another. Comparing the pedigrees is like comparing a $100 steak to a McDouble from McDonald's.

In terms of looks -- I assume Creative Cause is better looking. Horses with route pedigree don't work 10.40 and sell for peanuts if they have looks.

And -- Doug O'Neill VS Harrington.

For someone to pay as much for I'll Have Another as they would for Creative Cause -- they'd have to be absolutely deranged.

you are most likely correct. but my only point all along has been that the novelty of being a tc winner will drive demand, and his fee. i almost hope he'll win the thing just to see what happens with all that. i remember all the craziness accompanying smarty jones in the weeks after winning the preakness. i'm thinking his deal was around 30 mill or so...can only imagine if iha manages to win the belmont. and isn't he undefeated this year? well, for now...

[pmayjr]

If IHA wins the TC-
What people should think:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Yikes.

Creative Cause beat I'll Have Another at 6.5 furlongs in the Best Pal at age 2. Only a nose seperated them at 9 furlongs in the Santa Anita Derby.

Basically -- uncommonly run classic distances are the only thing separating these two horses on actual racing ability. 99.5% of the races in this country are run at 9fs or less.

In terms of the other areas -- Creative Cause owns I'll Have Another. Comparing the pedigrees is like comparing a $100 steak to a McDouble from McDonald's.

In terms of looks -- I assume Creative Cause is better looking. Horses with route pedigree don't work 10.40 and sell for peanuts if they have looks.

And -- Doug O'Neill VS Harrington.

For someone to pay as much for I'll Have Another as they would for Creative Cause -- they'd have to be absolutely deranged.

What people will think:

Originally Posted by Danzig

you are most likely correct. but my only point all along has been that the novelty of being a tc winner will drive demand, and his fee. i almost hope he'll win the thing just to see what happens with all that. i remember all the craziness accompanying smarty jones in the weeks after winning the preakness. i'm thinking his deal was around 30 mill or so...can only imagine if iha manages to win the belmont. and isn't he undefeated this year? well, for now...

Only thing i'll add- the h2h matchups between CC, IHA, and Bodemeister are the reason I actually hit the Derby exacta (but win $ on CC). Is CC digressing, IHA improving? I think CC will wake up on turf or synthetic, but your guys' theory for how 2 months ago they were noses apart and now they're 10 lengths apart?

[Calzone Lord]

Here was the I'll Have Another VS Creative Cause match-up at 6.5 furlongs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FZrE2QKdl0

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

If IHA wins the TC-
What people should think:


What people will think:


Only thing i'll add- the h2h matchups between CC, IHA, and Bodemeister are the reason I actually hit the Derby exacta (but win $ on CC). Is CC digressing, IHA improving? I think CC will wake up on turf or synthetic, but your guys' theory for how 2 months ago they were noses apart and now they're 10 lengths apart?

Perhaps a combination of thungs....iha maturing, increasing distances, running styles, cc on a less than ideal (for him) surface?