I'll Have Another's value as a stallion if he sweeps the Triple Crown

[Indian Charlie]

Real Quiet was at least useful.

But yeah, anyone who thinks IHA will be worth more than Bode is using pretty simple minded thinking.

At least in the long run, it's pretty certain Bode will be the more valuable stallion.

[Calzone Lord]

I think Creative Cause might have the most appeal of any of them (at least to me) ...Bode included.

Hansen has a real bang-up female family.

* Hansen's dam was claimed for $5,000 by Dr. Kendall Hansen. Made her final start at Mountaineer.

* Hansen's 2nd dam routinely ran for $5,000 claiming tags at River Downs.

* Hansen's 3rd dam was a 0-for-11 Arkansas bred.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

At least in the long run, it's pretty certain Bode will be the more valuable stallion.

I'd like to hear people like Cannon Shell, ParisX etc's take on this... as they would have a better gauge on the market for these horses as stallion prospects.

[Danzig]

There is no way of knowing which of these horses will succeed as a stallion in the long run. Impeccable breeding can get you a plugged nickel. On trck brilliance can get you a smarty jones.
I have to think being (if he wins) the first tc winner in a generation would be a huge draw. Whether it lasts is another story. Also, much like our emblem when war emblem had his big year, flower alley will get some good mares...whether he becomes our emblem nd fades into obscurity is another question mark right now.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Impeccable breeding can get you a plugged nickel. On trck brilliance can get you a smarty jones.

Yes -- which is why horses like Bodemeister and Creative Cause should have the edge as stallion prospects -- because they have two VS one.

It's not as extreme as say Bernardini VS Invasor ... but it seems clear-cut to me.

The question is will a Triple Crown label negate that. The breeding market is a good deal fashion and snake-oil.

[Danzig]

Theres always a chance he could be a huge sire like seattle slew turned out to be.
I think a huge part of his potential success in the shed will depend on who cuts the stud deal and has the right mares to support him.

Or he could end up in oklahoma.

I just figure that if he wins the belmont, hell get a huge deal and the biggest stud fees of the crop the first couple years. After all, i dont think smarty was the best bred of that crop, but look how things went down when stud deals were being made.

As for long term success, its a crapshoot for any of them.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Danzig

I just figure that if he wins the belmont, hell get a huge deal and the biggest stud fees of the crop the first couple years.

That would shock me -- and I was giggling at it when I first heard it ... but it seems to be like an almost universal opinion on boards. So, maybe I'm dead wrong.

[Danzig]

I just figure the novelty of the situation will drive up demand. I also think that flower alley didnt get off to a great start because the last few years havent been kind to many of the new studs, with people turning to tried and true successes to spend their money. I think fa has upside. And i feel that since its been so long without a tc winner, that when one appears, itll be huge.
Smarty jones got a huge deal, and didnt manage to win...i can just imagine the euphoria if this one wins it.