When "Neighborhood Watch" Gets Out of Hand

[Rupert Pupkin]

Zimmerman Medical Report Released:

http://news.yahoo.com/abc-news-exclu...opstories.html

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Zimmerman Medical Report Released:

http://news.yahoo.com/abc-news-exclu...opstories.html

Saw that report on ABC eve news...The medical report was done the morning after...the video shot of him the nite of the shooting show no head wound and no blood...

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Saw that report on ABC eve news...The medical report was done the morning after...the video shot of him the nite of the shooting show no head wound and no blood...

I have to disagree with you there. I think you could clearly see the wounds on the back of his head on the enhanced video.

[Antitrust32]

so voice experts have determined the voice yelling for help in the 911 call was NOT zimmermans voice.

Get ready to spend some time in prison, murderer.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

so voice experts have determined the voice yelling for help in the 911 call was NOT zimmermans voice.

Get ready to spend some time in prison, murderer.

The articles say the voice experts at the FBI could not determine whose voice it was.

By the way, there is no chance the voice was Trayvon's. Zimmerman was the one getting beaten up. Zimmerman was the one on the bottom getting punched in the face and having his head banged against the ground. Who do you think was yelling for help, the guy on the bottom who is getting beaten up, or the guy on top winning the fight?

People in the neighborhood identified the voice yelling as Zimmerman's. Even Trayvon's father said the voice was not his son's. Then later, once he realized that would hurt his case, then he changed his mind and decided it was Trayvon's voice.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

The articles say the voice experts at the FBI could not determine whose voice it was.

Yeah, but two "expert witness voice recognition guys" said it was Trayvon's.

Won't the trial be televised from Florida? (don't they show them?)

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yeah, but two "expert witness voice recognition guys" said it was Trayvon's.

Won't the trial be televised from Florida? (don't they show them?)

Those two so-called "expert witness voice recognition guys" were obviously talking out of their asses because the FBI had the actual tapes and could not determine whose voice it was. I can guarantee you that the FBI has much more sophisticated equipment too.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

The articles say the voice experts at the FBI could not determine whose voice it was.

By the way, there is no chance the voice was Trayvon's. Zimmerman was the one getting beaten up. Zimmerman was the one on the bottom getting punched in the face and having his head banged against the ground. Who do you think was yelling for help, the guy on the bottom who is getting beaten up, or the guy on top winning the fight?

People in the neighborhood identified the voice yelling as Zimmerman's. Even Trayvon's father said the voice was not his son's. Then later, once he realized that would hurt his case, then he changed his mind and decided it was Trayvon's voice.

Wow, that move by Trayvon's father sounds like it came rIght out of Sharpton's play book.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Saw that report on ABC eve news...The medical report was done the morning after...the video shot of him the nite of the shooting show no head wound and no blood...

Police report will clearly show what he looked like. Pretty cut and dry if you ask me.

[Clip-Clop]

All that will matter in the end is the ME report on Martin, was the shot fired from 6" or 4' (distances are estimated). That will determine in the minds of the jury what was happening 6" they were fighting and not guilty, 4' he shot the kid to kill him and guilty.

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

was the shot fired from 6" or 4'

I thought I read that there were powder burns found on the victim's body or clothing, so the question is moot, no?

I do agree with you that IF the prosecution has evidence to suggest the shot came from a distance, their case would be winnable. As it is, Z walks.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Ocala Mike

I thought I read that there were powder burns found on the victim's body or clothing, so the question is moot, no?

I do agree with you that IF the prosecution has evidence to suggest the shot came from a distance, their case would be winnable. As it is, Z walks.

I did not read that anywhere if it was made available but I pretty much stopped following closely shortly after the charges were filed. At that point I figured he would walk.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

All that will matter in the end is the ME report on Martin, was the shot fired from 6" or 4' (distances are estimated). That will determine in the minds of the jury what was happening 6" they were fighting and not guilty, 4' he shot the kid to kill him and guilty.

I think this could be spun either way. Playing devil's advocate, if a person has been involved in a physical confrontation with another, and the two become separated (perhaps by the first person either throwing the second backward, or by the first person retreating) but the second person charges, does the first person wait for more physical contact before shooting or does he shoot while the second person charges?

Just thayin, it could be manipulated both ways, and undoubtably would be.

[Riot]

George Zimmerman took a gun and followed an innocent man, Trayvon Martin. That's why Martin is dead by Zimmerman's gun, and everyone here knows it. When does the trial start, have they picked a day yet?

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Riot

George Zimmerman took a gun and followed an innocent man, Trayvon Martin. That's why Martin is dead by Zimmerman's gun, and everyone here knows it.

Everyone here has an opinion. As to Zimmerman's guilt or innocence as charged, I for one would like to hear the facts as they are presented in a trial, before I give mine.

Originally Posted by Riot

When does the trial start, have they picked a day yet?

I don't know, and am in no hurry to see the riots which (in my opinion) will ensue when the verdict is announced, no matter what the verdict might be.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by OldDog

I think this could be spun either way. Playing devil's advocate, if a person has been involved in a physical confrontation with another, and the two become separated (perhaps by the first person either throwing the second backward, or by the first person retreating) but the second person charges, does the first person wait for more physical contact before shooting or does he shoot while the second person charges?

Just thayin, it could be manipulated both ways, and undoubtably would be.

Agree... 4 Feet could mean you shot someone rushing to attack you where 6 inches could be an execution.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

All that will matter in the end is the ME report on Martin, was the shot fired from 6" or 4' (distances are estimated). That will determine in the minds of the jury what was happening 6" they were fighting and not guilty, 4' he shot the kid to kill him and guilty.

There was an article about this. I posted the link earlier in the thread. It said the shot came at extremely close range. There were gun powder burns on Trayvon's sweatshirt and on his skin.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

There was an article about this. I posted the link earlier in the thread. It said the shot came at extremely close range. There were gun powder burns on Trayvon's sweatshirt and on his skin.

Florida teenager Trayvon Martin died from a single gunshot wound to the chest fired from “intermediate range,” according to an autopsy report reviewed Wednesday by NBC News.

But they don't say what "intermediate" range is. Not touching skin or clothes?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

But they don't say what "intermediate" range is. Not touching skin or clothes?

I assumed that the powder burns on the skin and clothes meant that the shot was fired from just a few inches. I thought the article I posted said it was extremely close range. I will have to go back and find the article.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

But they don't say what "intermediate" range is. Not touching skin or clothes?

I found the article. Here is what it says:

"How close, asked the judge, was the gun to the victim when it was fired?"

"So close, said Gilbreath, that there were burns on Trayvon's sweat shirt and skin."

I would think that means that the gun was within a few inches of Martin.

http://southflorida.sun-sentinel.com...3.story?page=2