Super Tuesday in Erie and I won't be on hand

[MaTH716]

Tom Ridge has a Stakes race named after him at Presque Isle and you don't? I find that absolutely appaling.

Where are you and the little lady going?

Is the Lomax race is a mile? If so, you always preach about speed holding at PI, is there a chance that Lomax gets absolutely dismissed at the windows and goes wire to wire?

[slotdirt]

Nothing to add except I'm impressed with a 23.5 length win at pretty much any level.

ETA - having checked out the race replay, it was visually impressive as well.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Nothing to add except I'm impressed with a 23.5 length win at pretty much any level.

ETA - having checked out the race replay, it was visually impressive as well.

Here's the video of the race for anyone who hasn't watched it and wants to see it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzRhU...ature=youtu.be

You might want to mute it. I spliced it and hit upload so fast that the call is pretty messed up.

[slotdirt]

I realize we're talking about a horse winning its debut by a zillion lengths at MNR, but the jock never asked the horse to run even once. It will be interesting to see if there's anything more to the horse.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I realize we're talking about a horse winning its debut by a zillion lengths at MNR, but the jock never asked the horse to run even once. It will be interesting to see if there's anything more to the horse.

He went 3.80 seconds faster than the split heat.

So, had he run in the other open MSW division for males that day -- he would have won that race by 20+ lengths as well.

That's by far the fastest Mountaineer Park debuter I ever recall ... but it looks like the inside-speed friendly nature of the track that day flattered him. He didn't even break all that well -- and a horse who had been 2nd in a MCL 25K at Tampa this winter was used up trying to hook. Bias aided or not -- still tremendously impressive for that level. The fact that he was wrapped up with the ears pricked isn't a big deal to me. The horse was sprinting home and it's doubtful he could have gone any faster. That's normally a pretty slow track down there.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

He went 3.80 seconds faster than the split heat.

So, had he run in the other open MSW division for males that day -- he would have won that race by 20+ lengths as well.

That's by far the fastest Mountaineer Park debuter I ever recall ... but it looks like the inside-speed friendly nature of the track that day flattered him. He didn't even break all that well -- and a horse who had been 2nd in a MCL 25K at Tampa this winter was used up trying to hook. Bias aided or not -- still tremendously impressive for that level. The fact that he was wrapped up with the ears pricked isn't a big deal to me. The horse was sprinting home and it's doubtful he could have gone any faster. That's normally a pretty slow track down there.

He didn't run particularly fast early, so the 96 isn't likely to be repeated unless he is a total freak. This is what I gave the race on a Beyer scale:

04/30/2012   5    79    80    97

So, yes, he flew home, but any good horse would have also given those numbers early.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

He didn't run particularly fast early, so the 96 isn't likely to be repeated unless he is a total freak. This is what I gave the race on a Beyer scale:

04/30/2012   5    79    80    97

So, yes, he flew home, but any good horse would have also given those numbers early.

That's a good point.

But, he did run pretty fast early for a MSW horse at Mountaineer. For people who don't know, those type of races are typically won with Beyers of like 50.

The dam of this horse did route. She had won 5 in a row before finishing 4th in a Graded Stake (Delaware Oaks) going long.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

He didn't run particularly fast early, so the 96 isn't likely to be repeated unless he is a total freak. This is what I gave the race on a Beyer scale:

04/30/2012   5    79    80    97

So, yes, he flew home, but any good horse would have also given those numbers early.

Good horses don't debut at Mountaineer, except for this rare exception. Most horses in a MSW at Mnr with those early pace numbers would stop like they're carrying lead weight. Color me impressed.

[Calzone Lord]

The Lomax win looks like it came over a speed-biased racetrack.

1st race of the day: wire-to-wire at 37-to-1 odds.

2nd race of the day: wire-to-wire by five lengths at 16/1 odds.

3rd race of the day: wire-to-wire at 9/1 odds.

4th: route -- pace setter was 2nd at 3/1

5th race: Lomax wire-to-wire by 23.5

6th - pace setter was 2nd at 3/1

Off the pace types won 3 of the next 4 races.

[MaTH716]

If you had to guess, what odds will he go off at?

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

If you had to guess, what odds will he go off at?

Hard to say. That's a brutally tough spot he''s entered in for just 100K. There are five horses in there who are proven stakes caliber horses.

I would scratch him. Makes no sense rushing back in two weeks off such a huge debut performance. Wait for an entry level alw race here where he'll romp. Conditions are worth it in PA. They already wasted the MSW at Mountaineer for a lousy 17K purse.

[slotdirt]

Really, I'm just looking for another Fabulous Strike.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Where are you and the little lady going?

I'm guessing some place really exotic, like Ohio. Cincy or Cleveland?

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I'm guessing some place really exotic, like Ohio. Cincy or Cleveland?

i laughed

-bt-

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Where are you and the little lady going?

Is the Lomax race is a mile? If so, you always preach about speed holding at PI, is there a chance that Lomax gets absolutely dismissed at the windows and goes wire to wire?

The Lomax race is a sprint.

I narrowed down the vacation options to anywhere she wanted to drive...because I sure am not driving outside of the city limits.

Her gay roommate is encouraging her to choose New York City...so it probably will be there.

I was initially thinking Cleveland or Baltimore would be perfect.

Cleveland is perfect because they have the worlds best amusement park in Cedar Point near-by and because my dopey Air traffic controller brother lives there. But Cedar Point doesn't open until two weeks from now.

She can't get off of work on Friday or Saturday -- or Baltimore would have been the choice. Inner Harbor + Preakness.

Anything that doesn't involve roller coasters or horse tracks -- I'd personally have no interest in seeing. I'm probably the most boring person in the world...but that remains her problem.

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

The Lomax race is a sprint.

I narrowed down the vacation options to anywhere she wanted to drive...because I sure am not driving outside of the city limits.

Her gay roommate is encouraging her to choose New York City...so it probably will be there.

I was initially thinking Cleveland or Baltimore would be perfect.

Cleveland is perfect because they have the worlds best amusement park in Cedar Point near-by and because my dopey Air traffic controller brother lives there. But Cedar Point doesn't open until two weeks from now.

She can't get off of work on Friday or Saturday -- or Baltimore would have been the choice. Inner Harbor + Preakness.

Anything that doesn't involve roller coasters or horse tracks -- I'd personally have no interest in seeing. I'm probably the most boring person in the world...but that remains her problem.

scioto downs?

-bt-

[Indian Charlie]

Damn, I was soooo close!

I think you should take her to West Virginia. Some of the benefits?

1. Mountaineer Park.
2. Homeland of Randy Moss.
3. You'll be with your own kind.
4. It's a very scenic state, for the most part.
5. You can go visit that famous fat kid who didn't know that french fries and potato chips come from potatoes. Or something like that. I think he wasn't even able to recognize a whole potato in it's raw form. You would look like a genius in comparison!

[Calzone Lord]

If I go to West Virgina I will take her to the dog track at least once...and we will probably end up adopting a greyhound.

Wherever we go -- I'm bringing my laptop and phone.

You've never been to a dog track before, have you? You really haven't lived until you have.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

If I go to West Virgina I will take her to the dog track at least once...and we will probably end up adopting a greyhound.

Wherever we go -- I'm bringing my laptop and phone.

You've never been to a dog track before, have you? You really haven't lived until you have.

If you both have passports try Toronto with one night in Niagara Falls. Toronto is only about 4 hours from Erie.

[slotdirt]

You guys are sleeping on Buffalo.