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Old 05-04-2012, 12:56 AM
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I agree the focus on works can be a bit overrated, but everyone is using every possible angle to get a better understanding...so I take them all with just some degree of input to my full opinion.

I didn't need anyone to tell me that when an Asmussen horse worked a 5F bullet, then a well-regarded (by the clockers I've talked to) 6F work...and he deserves serious consideration.

I've heard nothing bad about Daddy Nose Best, and in fact, the clockers who saw him in his works at CD before the more well-known clockers came into town...his 5F and 6F works at CD were absolutely wonderful.

I liked the horse coming in, and their educated opinions have affirmed it...but all I needed to see was a rare Asmussen bullet followed by a solid maintenance drill...the 4F in 49.2 was overwhelmingly easy, and was much better than Sabercat's work...

The expected pace, Gomez, draw, works, breeding, appearance, third-up, six weeks, etc...I'm game on him.
Will be an all-time wise guy horse. You are NOT getting near 15-1 on this horse.
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Old 05-04-2012, 05:43 AM
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Steve, you are taking my comments the wrong way.
I'm not trying to beat up Welsch& Young. I think they do a very good job. At something that can be hard to gauge.
I did give them credit on AK.

Mike Welsch was a big reason why I scored out on Barbaro and Street Sense.

As far as my Hard Spun comments, I should've been more clear. I don't remember how Welsch had him rated but, the TVG guys didn't like his work at all going into the Breeders Cup in 2007.

I'm not looking to bash your friends Steve, I'm just trying to point out that these works are not an exact science. Some horses are just bad work horses and lazy in the AM.
It's just funny to me that most handicappers pay little to no attention to works for 95% of the time. Then come Derby and BC week, it's the end all-be all.
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