Derby training and workout reports

Kasept · #1 05-04-2012, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Hard Spun was training horrible according to the experts going into the Derby and Breeders Cup Classic. He ran 2nd in both races.

Nehro was a complete toss according to Welsch and Gary Young last year. (to be fair they both loved Animal Kingdom)

Now this year, ,El Padrino is the toss off his works.
The thing is, El Padrino has never been a good work horse.
Yeah, I'd liked to see more than a 53 half the week of the Derby but, at 25-30:1 I'll take my chances.

That's incorrect regarding Hard Spun. He was training well for Derby. The issue was the speed of the big :57 work and whether or not it would have a negative impact on him race day.

Hard to believe anyone would find fault with guys who correctly answered the biggest question of last year's race with a $43.80 winner.

MaTH716 · #2 05-04-2012, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

That's incorrect regarding Hard Spun. He was training well for Derby. The issue was the speed of the big :57 work and whether or not it would have a negative impact on him race day.

Hard to believe anyone would find fault with guys who correctly answered the biggest question of last year's race with a $43.80 winner.

Steve with all this talk about jogs and works, what's the story or whispers about Creative Cause? I like him, but I'm weary of all this talk about him having a foot issue.

slotdirt · #3 05-04-2012, 08:23 AM

Folks were raving about Hard Spun going into the '07 Derby. IIRC, his work was sparkling, but as kasept correctly mentioned, there were some concerns that he went a little fast. It turned out to not be the case.

justindew · #4 05-04-2012, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

That's incorrect regarding Hard Spun. He was training well for Derby. The issue was the speed of the big :57 work and whether or not it would have a negative impact on him race day.

Hard to believe anyone would find fault with guys who correctly answered the biggest question of last year's race with a $43.80 winner.

That depends on who you ask, in all honestly. I seem to remember reading something about him appearing sore and stiff before that fast workout.

Calzone Lord · #5 05-04-2012, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by justindew

That depends on who you ask, in all honestly. I seem to remember reading something about him appearing sore and stiff before that fast workout.

Yeah, Andy Beyer picked him to finish dead last in that years Kentucky Derby based on the fact that he ran off in final workout and the clockers all trashed how he finished the work up.

It was a bullet work -- but it was also the consensus most knocked work of any horse who was viewed so much as even a marginal contender in that race.