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Old 04-02-2012, 04:55 PM
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http://www.statemaster.com/graph/eco...tal-recipients

Welfare only (not food or medical assistance) in absolute population numbers (not percentage of population)

Rank States Amount
# 1 California: 1,085,627
# 2 New York: 341,004
# 3 Texas: 333,435
# 4 Pennsylvania: 207,429
# 5 Michigan: 202,469
# 6 Ohio: 188,108
# 7 Tennessee: 180,466
# 8 Washington: 140,721
# 9 Indiana: 140,571
# 10 Georgia: 132,003
# 11 Florida: 119,080
# 12 Arizona: 111,334
# 13 Missouri: 108,561

# 14 Massachusetts: 108,469
# 15 New Jersey: 101,854
# 16 Illinois: 99,952
# 17 Minnesota: 93,665
# 18 North Carolina: 83,906
# 19 Kentucky: 76,688
# 20 Virginia: 70,199
# 21 Maryland: 62,066
# 22 Louisiana: 56,157

# 23 Puerto Rico: 54,544
# 24 Iowa: 51,713
# 25 South Carolina: 48,028
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:58 PM
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http://www.statemaster.com/graph/eco...tal-recipients

Welfare only (not food or medical assistance)

Rank States Amount
# 1 California: 1,085,627
# 2 New York: 341,004
# 3 Texas: 333,435
# 4 Pennsylvania: 207,429
# 5 Michigan: 202,469
# 6 Ohio: 188,108
# 7 Tennessee: 180,466
# 8 Washington: 140,721
# 9 Indiana: 140,571

# 10 Georgia: 132,003
# 11 Florida: 119,080
# 12 Arizona: 111,334
# 13 Missouri: 108,561

# 14 Massachusetts: 108,469
# 15 New Jersey: 101,854
# 16 Illinois: 99,952
# 17 Minnesota: 93,665
# 18 North Carolina: 83,906
# 19 Kentucky: 76,688
# 20 Virginia: 70,199
# 21 Maryland: 62,066
# 22 Louisiana: 56,157

# 23 Puerto Rico: 54,544
# 24 Iowa: 51,713
# 25 South Carolina: 48,028
Well there you have it, thanks.
Cali and NY alone account for as much as just about every red state on here.
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Old 04-02-2012, 05:04 PM
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Well there you have it, thanks.
Cali and NY alone account for as much as just about every red state on here.
But they don't take out more in welfare than they put in. They put in, nationally, more than they take out. They are not "welfare receiving state" - they are a "we pay the welfare for the other states" state. Other states that are poor live off them. And those are mostly Republican states.

The states who have the greatest living off the largess of others, living off government programs of welfare, food aid, Medicaid, taking out more than they put in, are the poorest states, and are those that tend to vote Republican.

Jesus said help thy neighbors. Give to the poor. Worry about the least of these. The red states, who happen to also be the most religious states, certainly willingly take welfare help from the rich states. And you know? We, as a country, should help our poor and starving. And it doesn't take religion, plenty of atheists are generous to those in need. There is nothing wrong with that. That is not evil, or bad. Welfare reform in the 1990's eliminated lifetime welfare "queens" (something created out of thin air by Ronald Reagan, btw, for a campaign theme)
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Old 04-02-2012, 05:15 PM
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Joey and Clip-Clop: what did you think of the Rolling Stone article, and the history of the modern Republican party?
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Joey and Clip-Clop: what did you think of the Rolling Stone article, and the history of the modern Republican party?
I am totally dis-satisfied with the actions of the federal government since I started following things very closely in '91. I feel that my party (R) has abandoned me and the great many like me over that time.
The article was a bit opinion laden for my tastes but for the most part an accurate portrayal.
I would have appreciated the author possibly mentioning that during his first two years in office with control over the house and senate the Obama White House did absolutely nothing to counter-act what they criticized all along.
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I am totally dis-satisfied with the actions of the federal government since I started following things very closely in '91. I feel that my party (R) has abandoned me and the great many like me over that time.
The article was a bit opinion laden for my tastes but for the most part an accurate portrayal.
I would have appreciated the author possibly mentioning that during his first two years in office with control over the house and senate the Obama White House did absolutely nothing to counter-act what they criticized all along.
I agree with your take on the party changing, especially as I was raised "R" starting in the 1960's.

The party of educated, thoughtful conservatism as lead by William F. Buckley Jr. has become ... Glenn Beck and Hannity screeching about evil elites.
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