I liked Ike..

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Danzig

'Contrast that with today's trigger-happy Republicans who believe countries in the heart of Islam can be manipulated through military action to align with our interests.'


the vote was 98-0 in the Senate, and 420-1 in the House to

'authorize then-president George W. Bush “to use all necessary and appropriate force” against anyone he held responsible for the 9/11 attacks on New York’s World Trade Center and the Pentagon.'

i know fans of democrats like to point fingers only at their gop buddies, but it's simply false. unless of course you can show that those numbers above were exclusively republicans in congress? i don't think that's the case.

You forget that the dumbest President in history fooled everyone with his lies...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

You forget that the dumbest President in history fooled everyone with his lies...

oh, he's not on my list of smart guys by any means. i think it's a dead heat between him and carter for worst president in my lifetime. worst ever? yeah, there've been some doozies, but he could be. funny/sad thing is that so much of bush's 'stupid' has been continued by the present group, both obama and his admin and congress. we're still over there spending money like mad, while still continuing the tax cuts-all put into place by the previous 'leaders'.
thing is, some in congress are privy to much of the same info as the president. was there some snookering? maybe-or maybe not. maybe that's just an alibi for some.
and yet, over ten years later....where are we? still continuing those same bush/congress screw ups. why? why are we continuing bad moves? it hasn't gotten better, nor will it. but we're still in that 'war' (never declared mind you), still spending money we don't have, going deeper in debt, with not only a continuation of bush and co's rotten patriot act (with none of the promised changes) but with more bad moves piled on top (ndaa, killing of u.s. citizens without due process), and all the tax breaks instituted previously have been continued. to what end?
but republicans want you to think they can fix it. democrats want you to vote them in, or keep them in because they can fix it. they're all full of sh!t. and we're all the creamy center getting crushed between the two kooks...er, cookies.

obama fans still think he's soooo great-based on what? he's a liar. just like all the rest. has gitmo been closed? has he had the patriot act repaired or repealed? nope. but his AG is the one saying that u.s. citizens can be murdered by their govt. yeah, he's miles better than ol' georgie who didn't reach quite that far, did he?