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[wiphan]

Originally Posted by jms62

Mets players take on Braun could be summed up in one emoticon

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...icle-1.1028102

The Mets should worry about trying to win 70 games this year.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by wiphan

The Mets should worry about trying to win 70 games this year.

Love the Hebrew Hammer as much as you but what do you make of the Mets contention that "How did synthetic Testosterone get in is urine sample?" Your response is kind of lame and totally ignores the contention of the Mets players.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by jms62

Love the Hebrew Hammer as much as you but what do you make of the Mets contention that "How did synthetic Testosterone get in is urine sample?" Your response is kind of lame and totally ignores the contention of the Mets players.

Braun has been tested over 25 times in his major league career. His numbers have stayed consistent over his entire career. He is not stupid and wouldn't have used testosterone of all things. It just doesn't add up. He won arbitration where is presumed guilty not innocent. Since the chain of custody was against protocol and the way the sample was handled was enough to over turn the suspension. Why was the only sample that was held for 44 hrs + by the collector the only one that had elevated testosterone? Mets players should worry about their team and their own issues. If the sample was handled like it was susposed to and the same results occurred then Braun would be serving 50 games, but there is suspicion on what could have happened to the sample during the time when it was held by the collector.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Braun has been tested over 25 times in his major league career. His numbers have stayed consistent over his entire career. He is not stupid and wouldn't have used testosterone of all things. It just doesn't add up. He won arbitration where is presumed guilty not innocent. Since the chain of custody was against protocol and the way the sample was handled was enough to over turn the suspension. Why was the only sample that was held for 44 hrs + by the collector the only one that had elevated testosterone? Mets players should worry about their team and their own issues. If the sample was handled like it was susposed to and the same results occurred then Braun would be serving 50 games, but there is suspicion on what could have happened to the sample during the time when it was held by the collector.

So you are you saying it was tampered with because a degraded sample doesnt produce a positive for synthetic testosterone.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by jms62

So you are you saying it was tampered with because a degraded sample doesnt produce a positive for synthetic testosterone.

Yes I believe it was tampered with. The collector passed over 10 fedex locations on his way home and there is one open 24 hours in milwaukee. When u have a simple job to do like this the 2 logical reasons why you would have handled it this way was to either tamper with it or you are incredibly lazy and bad at your job. If you listen to the way braun spoke about this from day 1 he is either the best liar on the planet or he is telling the truth and the sample was tampered with. I will give him the benefit of the doubt based on his numbers, appearance, his own words and the poor handling of the only sample that has ever had high levels of synthetic testosterone. Braun is great for the game and the city of milwaukee. Plays hard, MVP numbers consistently, outstanding in the playoffs and was willing to take a long term deal with a small market team

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by jms62

So you are you saying it was tampered with because a degraded sample doesnt produce a positive for synthetic testosterone.

Latest rumor is that the collector Dino Lorenzi( not sure on spelling of his name) is a Cubs fan. Also the levels of syntethic testosterone were so high that makes this seem like it was tampered with. Should get interesting with the release of the arbitrators report today

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by jms62

Love the Hebrew Hammer as much as you but what do you make of the Mets contention that "How did synthetic Testosterone get in is urine sample?" Your response is kind of lame and totally ignores the contention of the Mets players.

The Mets players should be asking where to get some

[GPK]

Not sure if anyone has noticed, but Josh Hamilton is a freak.

[slotdirt]

I'm just reading this thread now. LOL at folks really believing the poor sample collector somehow tampered with Ryan Braun's urine sample.