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Old 02-24-2012, 12:38 PM
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Cool local election this week and shocker people brought ids!

You and your rant about the voter id is a complete and absurd joke. They just had local elections this week and guess what, it ran smoothly. Can you believe it voters actually brought their ids so they could vote! Its not discrimatory and is a good idea. Like someone said in the local paper "I need an id when I go to a bank or to get in a bar whats the big deal about having to show it when you vote." It works just like walker is doing a good job in wisconsin. Do us a favor and stay out of wisconsin politics. Its bad enough that obama is apologizing to afghans for burning some religious items! You never would have heard reagan say a word! Comeon obama!
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Old 02-24-2012, 01:10 PM
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You and your rant about the voter id is a complete and absurd joke. They just had local elections this week and guess what, it ran smoothly. Can you believe it voters actually brought their ids so they could vote! Its not discrimatory and is a good idea. Like someone said in the local paper "I need an id when I go to a bank or to get in a bar whats the big deal about having to show it when you vote." It works just like walker is doing a good job in wisconsin. Do us a favor and stay out of wisconsin politics. Its bad enough that obama is apologizing to afghans for burning some religious items! You never would have heard reagan say a word! Comeon obama!
You don't have a Constitutionally guaranteed right to a bank account or an alcoholic drink, that's the big deal. That person quoted in the local paper clearly didn't pay attention in Social Studies.

The right to vote is just that, a right. It's not a privilege; it's a right guaranteed to all Americans 18 and older. Anything that makes voting harder, including obtaining a picture ID, violates that right.
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it's not guaranteed to all, and you can lose that right-felons for instance.

i have to provide paperwork to buy my constitutionally guaranteed right to own firearm.
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it's not guaranteed to all, and you can lose that right-felons for instance.

i have to provide paperwork to buy my constitutionally guaranteed right to own firearm.


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Old 02-27-2012, 01:36 PM
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Cool your nuts!

Face it, it really is very simple to show an id. Also you can get a free id. It is not discrimanatory. Get off your high horse! As for the person voting for other senators, it was in the madison paper editorial, that both sides do it, yes even the democrats. What a shock! Walker will win this dumbass recall. He's doing a good job and is reducing the deficit that he inherited from a governor who just ignored and spent money like its monopoly money!
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Old 02-27-2012, 04:34 PM
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=nebrady;841583]Face it, it really is very simple to show an id.
Also you can get a free id. It is not discrimanatory.
Not if you are elderly, don't drive, and Wisconsin closed down your local DMV.

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He's doing a good job and is reducing the deficit that he inherited from a governor who just ignored and spent money like its monopoly money!
Not really. Well, not at all, actually. Walker just announced he has a $140 million dollar budget deficit, and he's stealing money from the housing settlement to help his budget out. Wisconsin has also lead the nation with 6 straight months of job loss, highest in the nation, while other states were adding jobs, on Walker's policies.

That's not a reduction of the deficit, nor a "good job", in real life. Can you name some things Walker has done that you think are "good" and have helped the state? Because objectively he's increased the deficit, lost jobs, and torn the state apart emotionally so far. Which is why he's facing the recall election, where half a million signatures were needed, and over 1 million were submitted. Those are some angry Wisconsinites.

Look - you can support Walker, of course, but he's done the above, and that's undeniable.
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Old 02-27-2012, 04:58 PM
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Well, isn't this a timely story and investigative expose about the ALEC voter suppression agenda in concert with the Republican Party.

Out of the wild Red west of Omaha, Nebraska, no less!

http://www.kmtv.com/multimedia/video...=1472387635001

Written story: http://www.kmtv.com/news/local/140379323.html
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it's not guaranteed to all, and you can lose that right-felons for instance.

i have to provide paperwork to buy my constitutionally guaranteed right to own firearm.
You also have to fill out paperwork in order to register to vote. Kind of like when you purchase a gun. Now, if you had to present your gun license to a Game Services Official each time you wanted to fire it, in order to be allowed to fire it, the comparison might be more accurate.

Taking away felons' right to vote (in some cases, even after they've served their sentence) came into existence post Civil War, in the South. It was just another way to keep blacks from voting. One some states continue to use today.
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Old 02-27-2012, 01:39 PM
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You also have to fill out paperwork in order to register to vote. Kind of like when you purchase a gun. Now, if you had to present your gun license to a Game Services Official each time you wanted to fire it, in order to be allowed to fire it, the parallel might fit better.

Taking away felons' right to vote (in some cases, even after they've served their sentence) came into existence post Civil War, in the South. It was just another way to keep blacks from voting. One some states continue to use today.

can't help but wonder if that's far off. as for voting and id, i think the arguments against it are ridiculous. i don't know how anyone over the age of 18 could get by without an id-it's used for so many things these days. and i can't think of many things more important to protect than voting, and making sure it's free as possible from fraud.
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can't help but wonder if that's far off. as for voting and id, i think the arguments against it are ridiculous. i don't know how anyone over the age of 18 could get by without an id-it's used for so many things these days. and i can't think of many things more important to protect than voting, and making sure it's free as possible from fraud.

How bout those dead people in Chicago, will they be able to vote for Obama again?..
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How bout those dead people in Chicago, will they be able to vote for Obama again?..

Even the dead people in Chicago disapprove of Obama
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In IL you not only need to pay for a FOID card but you also have to provide the picture to browse, purchase or even shoot a gun. Until just recently it was also illegal to own a handgun in Chicago (even if it remained in the home). Where's the ACLU?

The constitution (2nd amendment) was thrown out the window and we're arguing about providing id to vote?
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Old 02-24-2012, 04:04 PM
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You and your rant about the voter id is a complete and absurd joke. They just had local elections this week and guess what, it ran smoothly. Can you believe it voters actually brought their ids so they could vote!
How many people were turned away, or didn't go because they have no id?

Yeah. Get back to me after 5 million voters nationally are disinfranchised. You didn't see it, so it didn't happen.
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