Jets

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Brandon Marshall versus Braylon Edwards? You are kidding right? Are you seriously going to say that the lack of Braylon Edwards was a factor in the Jets collapse? Really?

I would be glad to discuss Miami's issues if anyone would be interested. Unlike you I understand that my team has some holes to fill that wont be solved by a B-level WR but hey we still managed to beat your team again.

As a Dolphin fan, you may have been asleep the last two Decembers and Januarys, but Braylon was an enormous part of our success. He gets dogged because of his off-field issues and his disappearance this season, but he's a legitimate deep threat when healthy, which we lacked completely this year. Are you saying that Sanchez and Schottenheimer suddenly forgot how to throw passes further than 20 yards? No, we just had nobody who could get separation downfield. It hurts every facet of the offense, particularly the running game.

You'll have to point out where I said our only issue was not having Braylon. But that's only if you want to stop having straw man arguments. The Jets have several issues, but I think anybody with a brain would say we're still a hell of a lot closer to a Super Bowl than your miserable team. Like I said, congrats on winning your yearly championship. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

As a Dolphin fan, you may have been asleep the last two Decembers and Januarys, but Braylon was an enormous part of our success. He gets dogged because of his off-field issues and his disappearance this season, but he's a legitimate deep threat when healthy, which we lacked completely this year. Are you saying that Sanchez and Schottenheimer suddenly forgot how to throw passes further than 20 yards? No, we just had nobody who could get separation downfield. It hurts every facet of the offense, particularly the running game.

You'll have to point out where I said our only issue was not having Braylon. But that's only if you want to stop having straw man arguments. The Jets have several issues, but I think anybody with a brain would say we're still a hell of a lot closer to a Super Bowl than your miserable team. Like I said, congrats on winning your yearly championship. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Really? Where was all this Braylon love before? He caught 50 something passes last year. Are you forgetting that it didnt matter if Bob Hayes was running open 50 yards downfield when the QB was often running from the pass rush as opposed to finding receivers?
You pointed out Edwards and the O coordinator. Thats it. I was working off of your inane comments that if they had a different coordinator and Braylon Edwards that things would have been different. That is the pie in the sky argument.

The Jets went into the tank this season and have lost their identity. That much is obvious to those without green colored glasses. Lashing out at me doesnt change that. Being all defensive just makes you look like a homer.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Really? Where was all this Braylon love before? He caught 50 something passes last year. Are you forgetting that it didnt matter if Bob Hayes was running open 50 yards downfield when the QB was often running from the pass rush as opposed to finding receivers?
You pointed out Edwards and the O coordinator. Thats it. I was working off of your inane comments that if they had a different coordinator and Braylon Edwards that things would have been different. That is the pie in the sky argument.

The Jets went into the tank this season and have lost their identity. That much is obvious to those without green colored glasses. Lashing out at me doesnt change that. Being all defensive just makes you look like a homer.

Oh jeez, with the 'identity' bullshit. This isn't CSI. They didn't play well this year, period. They had several issues. But not having a receiver like Braylon was, without a doubt, one of them.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Oh jeez, with the 'identity' bullshit. This isn't CSI. They didn't play well this year, period. They had several issues. But not having a receiver like Braylon was, without a doubt, one of them.

Yeah well when your offense and defense are fighting, your QB and captain WR are having fights in meetings and that same captain quits on the team in full view of the entire world...well???

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yeah well when your offense and defense are fighting, your QB and captain WR are having fights in meetings and that same captain quits on the team in full view of the entire world...well???

It means Santonio is a dipshit. I don't know what that has to do with your 'identity' comment. For someone who hates the overstating of intangibles, I'm surprised you'd use such a meaningless term.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It means Santonio is a dipshit. I don't know what that has to do with your 'identity' comment. For someone who hates the overstating of intangibles, I'm surprised you'd use such a meaningless term.

Seriously? You dont think there are serious internal issues on this team? You seem to be in the minority on this.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Seriously? You dont think there are serious internal issues on this team? You seem to be in the minority on this.

Did I say that?! Jesus Christ. I just don't understand what the hell you're saying when you talk about 'identity'. It usually is a meaningless term referring to a team's style of play.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Seriously? You dont think there are serious internal issues on this team? You seem to be in the minority on this.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/...e-won-or-lost/

lol