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jms62 01-01-2012 04:37 PM

Jets
 
Does Sanchez always look disinterested when they are losing? He sure looked it today. Unlike my pathetic Bills the Fins have heart. Too bad Jason Taylors TD didnt hold up.

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-01-2012 04:43 PM

ateams new year just went bad..

MaTH716 01-01-2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 828386)
ateams new year just went bad..

It was a moot point, the Titans won.

Cannon Shell 01-01-2012 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 828413)
It was a moot point, the Titans won.

It was a moot point except your QB looked terrible again, your offensive line was shaky, your vaunted defense gave up a 21 play, lead changing drive to a team playing without its best player (Jake Long), best RB and a banged up WR. Add to that LT is probably going to retire, one of your captains finished the game pouting on the bench and you just lost to a 6-10 team when you absolutely had to win.

But hey they did cover the spread

MaTH716 01-01-2012 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 828415)
It was a moot point except your QB looked terrible again, your offensive line was shaky, your vaunted defense gave up a 21 play, lead changing drive to a team playing without its best player (Jake Long), best RB and a banged up WR. Add to that LT is probably going to retire, one of your captains finished the game pouting on the bench and you just lost to a 6-10 team when you absolutely had to win.

But hey they did cover the spread

Definitely not mine Chuck, I root for the other residents of the swamp. But yes,they definitely have some issues. I'm expecting some sort of overhaul on the entire offensive side (including coaches).

Dahoss 01-01-2012 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 828419)
Definitely not mine Chuck, I root for the other residents of the swamp. But yes,they definitely have some issues. I'm expecting some sort of overhaul on the entire offensive side (including coaches).

Some issues is putting it nicely. They are an absolute mess. I'm just glad I decided not to watch the game. Saved me a lot of frustration.

I guess it could be worse though. It's not like Jets fans are flying banners over the stadium calling for the firing of the GM.....yet.

Cannon Shell 01-01-2012 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 828419)
Definitely not mine Chuck, I root for the other residents of the swamp. But yes,they definitely have some issues. I'm expecting some sort of overhaul on the entire offensive side (including coaches).

Oh **** I'm sorry.

Alabama Stakes 01-01-2012 09:09 PM

it seems like Sanchez is a stiff, thus must go before anything changes. RGIII would be a perfect fit.

RockHardTen1985 01-01-2012 11:26 PM

The QB is not an NFL QB, hes not. The coach is all talk, all talk. He does his BS and other coaches keep there mouths shut and win Championships. Start with replacing those 2, then you need another RB. Then the D needs to get younger. Other then that they are OK.

Dahoss 01-01-2012 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 828524)
The QB is not an NFL QB, hes not. The coach is all talk, all talk. He does his BS and other coaches keep there mouths shut and win Championships. Start with replacing those 2, then you need another RB. Then the D needs to get younger. Other then that they are OK.

The irony here is priceless.

I certainly can't defend what Sanchez did this season because he was awful. But he was the QB on a team that won 4 road playoff games in his first two seasons.

He's no Tim Tebow, but he's an NFL QB.

Coach Pants 01-02-2012 06:54 AM

The Ryan brothers are attention whores. So is Tebow. Tebow is in the early stages of being the media darling. Rex was there a few years ago. Then his brother was crowbarred in with that press conference deal.

The only real difference between the Ryan brothers and Tebow is that the Ryan boys are heathens and Tebow is JC Superstar.

RockHardTen1985 01-02-2012 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 828525)
The irony here is priceless.

I certainly can't defend what Sanchez did this season because he was awful. But he was the QB on a team that won 4 road playoff games in his first two seasons.

He's no Tim Tebow, but he's an NFL QB.

Defense and ground game won those games, and we both know at this point the D is old and you need at least 1 more RB. Gotta replace the production from LT and Jones.

declansharbor 01-02-2012 10:15 AM

Rex sticking with Sanchez should be his demise. That offense was laughably stagnant. How in the WORLD is Schottenheimer even being mentioned as a head coach candidate?! He BLOWS, Pettine would make the better HC, imo. I hope they turn it around next year, bc they ended this season like a bag of dog $hit

Dahoss 01-02-2012 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 828552)
Defense and ground game won those games, and we both know at this point the D is old and you need at least 1 more RB. Gotta replace the production from LT and Jones.

Thanks captain obvious.

RockHardTen1985 01-02-2012 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 828561)
Thanks captain obvious.

Its not just your team... My team needs a RB, a deep threat and a lot on D. We have the coach and QB though. Thats the difference.

Dahoss 01-02-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 828562)
Its not just your team... My team needs a RB, a deep threat and a lot on D. We have the coach and QB though. Thats the difference.

I seem to recall the Jets knocking out the Pats...at home in the playoffs last season with their second rate Coach and QB.

We'll see what happens in the off season. I figured you'd like Rex Ryan. All of his talking kind of reminds me of yours.

RockHardTen1985 01-02-2012 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 828564)
I seem to recall the Jets knocking out the Pats...at home in the playoffs last season with their second rate Coach and QB.

We'll see what happens in the off season. I figured you'd like Rex Ryan. All of his talking kind of reminds me of yours.


You guys did beat us, congrats. Bad loss for NE, still hurts. Super Bowls though, Sanchez wont get you 1.

MaTH716 01-02-2012 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 828557)
Rex sticking with Sanchez should be his demise. That offense was laughably stagnant. How in the WORLD is Schottenheimer even being mentioned as a head coach candidate?! He BLOWS, Pettine would make the better HC, imo. I hope they turn it around next year, bc they ended this season like a bag of dog $hit

I think Rex's problem is that he doesn't get involved enough with the offense. They were down 10-7 at the half against the Giants in a half where they were moving the ball on the ground. Rex needed to mandate that they stay with the ground and pound. It just seem like he doesn't focus or use his input on the offensive side of the ball at all. I thought I heard him say this morning that he didn't even realize why Santonio was on he bench.

I still believe that Sanchez can be an effective QB in the league. Between his comeback performances (last year) and his playoff success, there's just too much good there to dismiss. I'm not saying that he wasn't bad (downright awful) at times, but it doesn't rest solely on his shoulders. The offensive line was horrendous and the kid was running for his life many times back there. Also the drops, balls taken of helmets and tips for interceptions didn't help his case either.

It's funny, cause around the NY area there have been a few articles planting the seeds about them getting Peyton Manning. Really, what do these people think he would be able to do behind that line?

The off season is going to be interesting because I'm thinking there could be a major overhaul on the offensive side of the ball. They need to upgrade the line. Not sure what's going to happen at the reciever position. I guess I could see Braylon Edwards coming back to replace Plax who will probably bolt. But how is Ryan and the organization going to handle the Holmes situation? Was his bad season just a by-product of a bad offense or is it a case of him getting his payday? I would give him the benifit of the doubt, but I'm thinking his actions yesterday might have left a bad taste in the mouth of many of his teamates.

Then there is the defense. If Leonard comes back, their in pretty decent shape. I do think it's time to end the Bart Scott era, maybe I'm wrong but he seemed invisible out there many times this season. So if they can acquire a MLB and maybe draft/sign a pass rusher they should be in pretty decent shape. Obviously at times they struggled, but also due to the ineptness of the offense they were forced in to being on the field for long periods of time (not to mention trying to defend very bad field position).

They definitey looks like their plate is full for this offseason.

Cannon Shell 01-02-2012 03:40 PM

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/N...meeting-010212

Take this with a grain of salt as I am obviously biased but the shelf life of a team's continuity isn't long when the head coach feels the need to constantly stroke their collective ego. There are far too many players in the NFL who are successful because they buy into the scheme and team concept despite having less than overwhelming talent. The teams like the Jets are emotionally fragile because they have too many primadonnas and when they have adversity and feel the pressure they fall apart and start pointing fingers and making excuses. Rex had them believing that they were underrated and overlooked for two years, that people didnt believe. That only works for so long.

Sorry for the Dr Phil analysis.

Danzig 01-02-2012 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 828634)
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/N...meeting-010212

Take this with a grain of salt as I am obviously biased but the shelf life of a team's continuity isn't long when the head coach feels the need to constantly stroke their collective ego. There are far too many players in the NFL who are successful because they buy into the scheme and team concept despite having less than overwhelming talent. The teams like the Jets are emotionally fragile because they have too many primadonnas and when they have adversity and feel the pressure they fall apart and start pointing fingers and making excuses. Rex had them believing that they were underrated and overlooked for two years, that people didnt believe. That only works for so long.

Sorry for the Dr Phil analysis.


he'd probably rather stroke their feet....

seriously tho, the ego's of most nfl athletes doesn't need help. nothing helps a team more than a lot of hard work...and a good coach.


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