Jets

[Cannon Shell]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/N...meeting-010212

Take this with a grain of salt as I am obviously biased but the shelf life of a team's continuity isn't long when the head coach feels the need to constantly stroke their collective ego. There are far too many players in the NFL who are successful because they buy into the scheme and team concept despite having less than overwhelming talent. The teams like the Jets are emotionally fragile because they have too many primadonnas and when they have adversity and feel the pressure they fall apart and start pointing fingers and making excuses. Rex had them believing that they were underrated and overlooked for two years, that people didnt believe. That only works for so long.

Sorry for the Dr Phil analysis.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/N...meeting-010212

Take this with a grain of salt as I am obviously biased but the shelf life of a team's continuity isn't long when the head coach feels the need to constantly stroke their collective ego. There are far too many players in the NFL who are successful because they buy into the scheme and team concept despite having less than overwhelming talent. The teams like the Jets are emotionally fragile because they have too many primadonnas and when they have adversity and feel the pressure they fall apart and start pointing fingers and making excuses. Rex had them believing that they were underrated and overlooked for two years, that people didnt believe. That only works for so long.

Sorry for the Dr Phil analysis.

he'd probably rather stroke their feet....

seriously tho, the ego's of most nfl athletes doesn't need help. nothing helps a team more than a lot of hard work...and a good coach.

[ateamstupid]

Glad your perpetual 6-10 team won its Super Bowl again, Chuck. Should be comforting.

Sanchez will be fine once Schitty is toast and they bring Braylon back. Let's not forget that Drew Brees had to be benched in his third season when Schitty was his QB coach. It's fashionable to dump on Rex now, but the guy has been wildly successful for a rookie head coach thus far. Every franchise in the country going through a championship drought would sign up for what Rex has given us in his first three years. They had a bad year and have to get a lot of things corrected, but I'm way happier with Tannenbaum/Rex/Sanchez than I've ever been with a Jet GM/HC/QB in my life.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Glad your perpetual 6-10 team won its Super Bowl again, Chuck. Should be comforting.

Sanchez will be fine once Schitty is toast and they bring Braylon back. Let's not forget that Drew Brees had to be benched in his third season when Schitty was his QB coach. It's fashionable to dump on Rex now, but the guy has been wildly successful for a rookie head coach thus far. Every franchise in the country going through a championship drought would sign up for what Rex has given us in his first three years. They had a bad year and have to get a lot of things corrected, but I'm way happier with Tannenbaum/Rex/Sanchez than I've ever been with a Jet GM/HC/QB in my life.

Glad to see you are still a delusional Jet fan. Braylon Edwards? Wow.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Glad to see you are still a delusional Jet fan. Braylon Edwards? Wow.

Yeah, he never made any big plays for us. Brandon Marshall's really changed things for the Jimmy Buffetts. Hopefully another one of our assistants doesn't turn down your head coaching job.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yeah, he never made any big plays for us. Brandon Marshall's really changed things for the Jimmy Buffetts. Hopefully another one of our assistants doesn't turn down your head coaching job.

Brandon Marshall versus Braylon Edwards? You are kidding right? Are you seriously going to say that the lack of Braylon Edwards was a factor in the Jets collapse? Really?

I would be glad to discuss Miami's issues if anyone would be interested. Unlike you I understand that my team has some holes to fill that wont be solved by a B-level WR but hey we still managed to beat your team again.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Brandon Marshall versus Braylon Edwards? You are kidding right? Are you seriously going to say that the lack of Braylon Edwards was a factor in the Jets collapse? Really?

I would be glad to discuss Miami's issues if anyone would be interested. Unlike you I understand that my team has some holes to fill that wont be solved by a B-level WR but hey we still managed to beat your team again.

I realize it sounds silly, but I agree not having Braylon was a factor. Was it as big a factor as having an ineffective offensive line? Of course not.

Was it as big a factor as the defense underperforming? Again, of course not. But Braylon made a lot of big plays when it mattered. That was something that was missing from the Jets for a majority of the season. No one stepped up with a big play when the team desperately needed someone to.

I don't think having Braylon there this season would have off set their flaws, but it might have made them not so apparent.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Brandon Marshall versus Braylon Edwards? You are kidding right? Are you seriously going to say that the lack of Braylon Edwards was a factor in the Jets collapse? Really?

I would be glad to discuss Miami's issues if anyone would be interested. Unlike you I understand that my team has some holes to fill that wont be solved by a B-level WR but hey we still managed to beat your team again.

As a Dolphin fan, you may have been asleep the last two Decembers and Januarys, but Braylon was an enormous part of our success. He gets dogged because of his off-field issues and his disappearance this season, but he's a legitimate deep threat when healthy, which we lacked completely this year. Are you saying that Sanchez and Schottenheimer suddenly forgot how to throw passes further than 20 yards? No, we just had nobody who could get separation downfield. It hurts every facet of the offense, particularly the running game.

You'll have to point out where I said our only issue was not having Braylon. But that's only if you want to stop having straw man arguments. The Jets have several issues, but I think anybody with a brain would say we're still a hell of a lot closer to a Super Bowl than your miserable team. Like I said, congrats on winning your yearly championship. Whatever helps you sleep at night.