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Old 12-21-2011, 04:26 PM
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Funny bewteen Asmussen and Baffert they have 7 entries in the Malibu.
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Old 12-21-2011, 06:18 PM
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Funny bewteen Asmussen and Baffert they have 7 entries in the Malibu.
Between everyone not named Baffert and Asmussen -- they have 4 entries in the Malibu?
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Old 12-21-2011, 07:02 PM
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Gee... not to sound like Alan or anything but this isn't very exciting, is it?
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:28 PM
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One of the few times that the Malibu is composed almost entirely of sprinters. Not even a Triple Crown also-ran (they're in the Sir Beaufort earlier on the card) to make it interesting.

Going with Racing Aptitude, who won a couple of routes for Howie Tesher in FL earlier this year, and comes off a thorough dusting of his elders in a minor stakes at Hollywood. Runner-up Tweebster, one of the great Twirling Candy's vanquished foes last winter, came back to place in the G3 Native Diver and show horse El Gato Malo returned to win a recent turf allowance handily.

Centralinteligence has the pedigree to stretch out (and perhaps turf), but he's been pretty sharp sprinting and seems to have room to improve. Toss his Polytrack debacle and he looks solid.

Don't know what to make of Dutrow's ship-in. He's unbeatable at 7f at least in claimers and he seemed well-meant as a 2yo last year, running close to stakes horse Rogue Romance before converting to a typical Linda Rice turf sprinter. Closely related to the good Allen Paulson runner Dowty,
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:38 PM
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Is it me or are 7F races very rare nowadays.
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:43 PM
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Is it me or are 7F races very rare nowadays.
It's you.

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Going with Racing Aptitude, who won a couple of routes for Howie Tesher in FL earlier this year, and comes off a thorough dusting of his elders in a minor stakes at Hollywood. Runner-up Tweebster, one of the great Twirling Candy's vanquished foes last winter, came back to place in the G3 Native Diver and show horse El Gato Malo returned to win a recent turf allowance handily.
I'm with you on Centralinteligence, I like him a lot. Are you concerned at all with how poorly Racing Aptitude has run on dirt previously?
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Old 12-21-2011, 10:15 PM
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This race is great, lots of things going on.
Horse I dont want any part of at all-

Associate. He will be bet a little Dutrow/Ramon to blow out wins. Tons of speed in here and he has beat nothing at all. He can beat me everyday in a spot like this.
The Factor. One of my favorites, but he feels like hes over the top. His last 2 leave a lot to be desired. Ill be hoping he runs well, but I wont have $1 on him. Wont even cover in multis.
Wine Police. Hes Ok, so are the 2 above but not in this spot and not for me. He never really moved forward this year off his 2yr old debut. He can beat me.
Racing Aptitude. Ran really well last time, but I highly doubt he can repeat that race vs a group like this. Hard for me to toss Baffert, but thats 2 now.
Light Up The Score. Not that this one will really be bet, but it is Steve A. Hes just not good enough, I doubt anyone will argue that.

Horses I like-

Rothko. Getting better with every race. I dont love him, but Ill cover him in my multis with 2 other horses. This guy has to be a price in this spot.
Smash. Obvious issues with this guy. He was supposed to be a Derby horse last year and was then off till May. First time since May he is pairing up races, second time in his brief career. If hes right, and you have to assume he is they wont beat him.
Hoorayforhollywood. Love everything about him, except the 2 short price seconds. The cutback works, has speed but has proven he can sit and win.
Those are the 3 Im using. Dont really get the Ellis horse at all, wont be using him.
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Old 12-21-2011, 10:34 PM
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What don't you get about the Ellis horse aside from not being trained by Baffert?
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Old 12-21-2011, 10:44 PM
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Are you concerned at all with how poorly Racing Aptitude has run on dirt previously?
It's a big question mark, but I'm explaining it away with several excuses. His first attempt was on slop. In his second, he was 100-1 in the Fountain of Youth, had some trouble, and wasn't in good form to begin with. After one more poor effort, he was sent to the sidelines for 6 months. Giving him a pass for the Santa Anita effort, too, as he was tackling older foes off the aforementioned layoff in his first out for Bob Baffert. No surprise he moved up with his best career effort in his second start for the barn. In addition, he has absolutely ridiculous workouts over the track coming into this.

On a more cynical note, Martin Garcia opting for The Factor tallies another check for the positive column IMO.
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Old 12-21-2011, 10:47 PM
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It's a big question mark, but I'm explaining it away with several excuses. His first attempt was on slop. In his second, he was 100-1 in the Fountain of Youth, had some trouble, and wasn't in good form to begin with. After one more poor effort, he was sent to the sidelines for 6 months. Giving him a pass for the Santa Anita effort, too, as he was tackling older foes off the aforementioned layoff in his first out for Bob Baffert. No surprise he moved up with his best career effort in his second start for the barn. In addition, he has absolutely ridiculous workouts over the track coming into this.

On a more cynical note, Martin Garcia opting for The Factor tallies another check for the positive column IMO.
He had a start before the slop attempt in which he was 8th, but I can sort of buy everything else. He just seems like a better fit for the Sir Beaufort to me.
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Old 12-22-2011, 05:14 AM
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Is it me or are 7F races very rare nowadays.
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It's you.
I laughed.

Three of the first five races at Tampa today, are 7f.
Three of the first four races at Tampa on Friday, are 7f.
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Old 12-22-2011, 11:27 AM
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Love Rothko here.
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