obama should lose

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Four important states, Wisconsin, Florida, Michigan, Ohio, have extremely unpopular Republican governors who are undergoing attack and recall of themselves and their policies. Florida has the most unpopular Gov. in the country. Wis. Gov. is on the verge of undergoing a recall election. All this will help the Dems in 2012.

Obama is currently winning in South Carolina polling against Gingrich and Romney.

Rep. Gov Nikki Haley has just been found (this week) to have withheld FOIA requests that reveal she's privately deliberately blocked ACA health care implementation in her state.

There's a long way to go, but characterizing Obama as a terrible president is pretty premature and doesn't hold up well outside of conservaland (killed bin Laden, eliminated most of al Quaeda, ended war in Iraq, drawing down in Afghanistan, saved the auto industry, millions receiving benefits of health care law changes) - especially against a Republican House that has the lowest ever popularity rating. The public knows Obama inherited alot of this mess, and knows the Congress and Senate haven't done a thing to help him.

Some of this weeks other poll numbers:

NATIONAL (AP/GfK): Obama d. Romney (47-46); Obama d. Gingrich (51-42)

NATIONAL (Rasmussen): Obama d. Gingrich (49-39)

NATIONAL (Reuters/Ipsos): Obama d. Romney (48-40); Obama d. Gingrich (51-38); Obama d. Perry (50-37)

NATIONAL (YouGov/Economist): Obama d. Romney (46-43); Obama d. Gingrich (48-39); Obama d. Paul (47-40)

CALIFORNIA (PPIC): Obama d. Generic Republican (50-38)

VIRGINIA (PPP): Obama d. Romney (48-42); Obama d. Gingrich (50-43); Obama d. Paul (48-40); Obama d. Perry (51-41); Obama d. Bachmann (52-39)

He has zero shot v. Huntsman. Complete landslide and I hope that the party can see that when the time comes.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

He has zero shot v. Huntsman. Complete landslide and I hope that the party can see that when the time comes.

I think Huntsman would be the best challenger. He's inched into double digits in New Hampshire.

I still wish Ron Paul would do well - this is the best he's ever done, in his lifetime campaign of running for Pres.

I think this is going to be a weird election, with the top of the ticket separated from the downticket races. Obama has already tried out his stump speech in Kansas, though, and it was stunning.

[hi_im_god]

btw: the futures also put the likelyhood of a republican senate after the 2012 election at 75% and a republican house at 73.9%..

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

btw: the futures also put the likelyhood of a republican senate after the 2012 election at 90%.

That's always been very strong at Intrade, but goes completely against what seems to be unrolling in the field. However, it's very fluid, the polling in the field goes up and down weekly. And you are right that Intrade is usually very accurate.

BTW, Elizabeth Warren appears to be rolling in Mass, to return that one Sen. seat Dem.

At the state level, the GOP is terribly unpopular, but at the national level, the middle class is gone with 1 in 2 living at or above poverty. The public loves Obama personally, but his approval is low. But every single other metric - Congress, other candidates - is lower than Obama.

Very roiled.

[hi_im_god]

future's predict republican nominee:

romney 60.3%
gingrich 19.4%
paul 7.7%
huntsman 6.2%
perry 4.0%
bachman 1.4%
santorum 0.8%

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

btw: the futures also put the likelyhood of a republican senate after the 2012 election at 75% and a republican house at 73.9%..

What's the Senate? (says 90% above ... )

[Riot]

Maddow reported yesterday that someone is paying to phone poll Jeb Bush against Romney and Gingrich in New Hampshire .... might want to take a Jeb Bush longshot

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Riot

Maddow reported yesterday that someone is paying to phone poll Jeb Bush against Romney and Gingrich in New Hampshire .... might want to take a Jeb Bush longshot

Yeah, but what sane person would ever vote for another Bush?...oops, forgot about Faux viewers...

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Yeah, but what sane person would ever vote for another Bush?...oops, forgot about Faux viewers...

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/cat...daily-ratings/


FNC

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by geeker2

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/cat...daily-ratings/


FNC

Yeah, that's what i'm talkin bout....those koolaide drinkers....

[lord007]

Originally Posted by geeker2

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/cat...daily-ratings/


FNC

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Riot

What's the Senate? (says 90% above ... )

it's 75%. there's a variety of contracts listed and the one for senate republicans 51 or more was selling at 90% but there was no volume. the higher volume contract for any republican majority was at 75%.

cook report has 8 democratic seats rated a toss up while only 2 republican seats (including brown's) fall in that category. all the other seats are rated "lean to" through "solidly" for the incumbent party.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

it's 75%. there's a variety of contracts listed and the one for senate republicans 51 or more was selling at 90% but there was no volume. the higher volume contract for any republican majority was at 75%.

cook report has 8 democratic seats rated a toss up while only 2 republican seats (including brown's) fall in that category. all the other seats are rated "lean to" through "solidly" for the incumbent party.

Thanks. If things continue to happen like the Scott Walker recall, Kasich continues to fall, Michigan continues to overturn municiple elections and appoint Governor-handpicked Czars to run towns, Scott in Florida continues disaster, the Arizona Republican party, and Nikki Haley is found to be obstructing Obamacares law, things will be very fluid.

At this early stage, all the Dems have to do is shut up and stay out of the limelight. The GOP is self-destructing in front of our eyes.

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

it's 75%. there's a variety of contracts listed and the one for senate republicans 51 or more was selling at 90% but there was no volume. the higher volume contract for any republican majority was at 75%.

cook report has 8 democratic seats rated a toss up while only 2 republican seats (including brown's) fall in that category. all the other seats are rated "lean to" through "solidly" for the incumbent party.

Don't be too sure about Mass.. Brown has a very good approval rating here. People like him because he does not vote strictly along party lines. He is extremely popular among independents who make up the majority of voters here.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

Don't be too sure about Mass.. Brown has a very good approval rating here. People like him because he does not vote strictly along party lines. He is extremely popular among independents who make up the majority of voters here.

i'm not the least bit sure about brown. and i think the senate flips to the republicans even if he loses.

i was just commenting in response to riot's post about him being vulnerable and putting it in the larger context of democrats defending 8 vulnerable seats vs. republican's only defending 2.

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i'm not the least bit sure about brown. and i think the senate flips to the republicans even if he loses.

i was just commenting in response to riot's post about him being vulnerable and putting it in the larger context of democrats defending 8 vulnerable seats vs. republican's only defending 2.

Sorry. I tend to skip Riot's posts and only saw yours.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i'm not the least bit sure about brown. and i think the senate flips to the republicans even if he loses.

i was just commenting in response to riot's post about him being vulnerable and putting it in the larger context of democrats defending 8 vulnerable seats vs. republican's only defending 2.

True the Dems have more seats to defend, but right now some of those states are being destroyed by their GOP govs, which will play into Dem hands. Brown is already massive points behind Warren, in a historically Dem Senate seat. But there's a long time to go yet. Trends are not even "real" now.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

Don't be too sure about Mass.. Brown has a very good approval rating here. People like him because he does not vote strictly along party lines. He is extremely popular among independents who make up the majority of voters here.

Deb-o Deb Rules!!!

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Deb-o Deb Rules!!!

Brown is holding the lead over Warren and the 3 other Dem challengers. Warren is expected to win the Dem nomination.

If interested, go to realclearpolitics.com and look under Mass 2012 senate race.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Deb-o Deb Rules!!!

^^^^ Under effects of St. Joseph Rye for Adults.(86 proof...4% Turpentine...3% ethyl alcohol)