Timmy Ice Tebow...

MaTH716 · #1 12-09-2011, 09:56 AM

I just think that the league/media have attached themselves to this guy for a couple of reasons. He was such a success in college and it was well publicized. Then so many people said that he wasn't going to cut it in the NFL and he's having some early success. Also he is very easy to root for (along the lines of what Joey has mentioned). It has all the makings of a CBS Sunday night movie.

What's also helping this story is the lack of other storylines going on in the league right now.

It's pretty much a forgone conclusion that the Pack are going to run the table in the regular season. I think the Pack has also taken away a lot of the spotlight away from the 49ers and the tremendous season they are having.

The Texans story is interesting, but really seems to be getting no play (even the Bears to an extent).

You have 2 mediocre teams battling for the NFC East crown and 3 in the AFC west (part of the Tebow story).

The Colts Manning/Luck debate will play out after the season

All the surprise/feel good teams seem to have started their declines (Bills, Bengals, Lions)

The demise of the Eagles has been a season long story and everyone is just waiting on Andy Reid's fate.

A lot of guys are staying out of trouble and others are keeping their mouths shut. Randy Moss and Brett Favre don't play in the league anymore and OchoCinco is a benchwarmer. Even guys like Rex and Jerry Jones have been relatively quiet.

Or maybe it's just the media playing everything else down, so it could be all Tebow all the time.

3kings · #2 12-09-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

I just think that the league/media have attached themselves to this guy for a couple of reasons. He was such a success in college and it was well publicized. Then so many people said that he wasn't going to cut it in the NFL and he's having some early success. Also he is very easy to root for (along the lines of what Joey has mentioned). It has all the makings of a CBS Sunday night movie.

What's also helping this story is the lack of other storylines going on in the league right now.

It's pretty much a forgone conclusion that the Pack are going to run the table in the regular season. I think the Pack has also taken away a lot of the spotlight away from the 49ers and the tremendous season they are having.

The Texans story is interesting, but really seems to be getting no play (even the Bears to an extent).

You have 2 mediocre teams battling for the NFC East crown and 3 in the AFC west (part of the Tebow story).

The Colts Manning/Luck debate will play out after the season

All the surprise/feel good teams seem to have started their declines (Bills, Bengals, Lions)

The demise of the Eagles has been a season long story and everyone is just waiting on Andy Reid's fate.

A lot of guys are staying out of trouble and others are keeping their mouths shut. Randy Moss and Brett Favre don't play in the league anymore and OchoCinco is a benchwarmer. Even guys like Rex and Jerry Jones have been relatively quiet.

Or maybe it's just the media playing everything else down, so it could be all Tebow all the time.

The rest of the NFL is having fun with it:

After the media dispersed from his locker, Roethlisberger limped slowly to the trainer's room. He was going to get outfitted for a walking boot. On Friday, he'll have an MRI to find how bad the injury is.As Roethlisberger hobbled by like an old man, Tomlin shouted at him from a side door."Ben, that was magical, man!" he said, laughing. "That was Tebow-like!"

http://www.foxsportsohio.com/12/09/1...20&feedID=3725

Clip-Clop · #3 12-09-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

I just think that the league/media have attached themselves to this guy for a couple of reasons. He was such a success in college and it was well publicized. Then so many people said that he wasn't going to cut it in the NFL and he's having some early success. Also he is very easy to root for (along the lines of what Joey has mentioned). It has all the makings of a CBS Sunday night movie.

What's also helping this story is the lack of other storylines going on in the league right now.

It's pretty much a forgone conclusion that the Pack are going to run the table in the regular season. I think the Pack has also taken away a lot of the spotlight away from the 49ers and the tremendous season they are having.

The Texans story is interesting, but really seems to be getting no play (even the Bears to an extent).

You have 2 mediocre teams battling for the NFC East crown and 3 in the AFC west (part of the Tebow story).

The Colts Manning/Luck debate will play out after the season

All the surprise/feel good teams seem to have started their declines (Bills, Bengals, Lions)

The demise of the Eagles has been a season long story and everyone is just waiting on Andy Reid's fate.

A lot of guys are staying out of trouble and others are keeping their mouths shut. Randy Moss and Brett Favre don't play in the league anymore and OchoCinco is a benchwarmer. Even guys like Rex and Jerry Jones have been relatively quiet.

Or maybe it's just the media playing everything else down, so it could be all Tebow all the time.

He is getting all the coverage he gets because he (and the rest of the team) has made everyone one of them look like idiots for the coverage he got early on and the producers must love it.
Even Steve Young was recanting his statements of disbelief from the first few starts.

horseofcourse · #4 12-09-2011, 12:08 PM

The only starting quarterbacks with higher qb ratings than Tebow this year are Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Roethlisberger, Schaub, Stafford, Smith, Romo, and Manning. I'm guessing the standard reply would be that just proves how poor the qb ratings are!!

Dahoss · #5 12-09-2011, 12:13 PM

Why do people who criticized his play as an NFL QB look like idiots now? Because the Broncos are 7-5 in the 2nd worst divison in the NFL?

Impressive. Where is that Zenyatta song again?

ateamstupid · #6 12-09-2011, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Why do people who criticized his play as an NFL QB look like idiots now? Because the Broncos are 7-5 in the 2nd worst divison in the NFL?

Impressive. Where is that Zenyatta song again?

Once again, other than beating the Jets in an impossible situation for them:

Dolphins 4-8
Chargers 5-7
Chiefs 5-7
Vikings 2-10

Like I said, if he wins a playoff game, I'll leave the board forever.

Dahoss · #7 12-09-2011, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Once again, other than beating the Jets in an impossible situation for them:

Dolphins 4-8
Chargers 5-7
Chiefs 5-7
Vikings 2-10

Like I said, if he wins a playoff game, I'll leave the board forever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3-ea...eature=related

NTamm1215 · #8 12-09-2011, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Once again, other than beating the Jets in an impossible situation for them:

Dolphins 4-8
Chargers 5-7
Chiefs 5-7
Vikings 2-10

Like I said, if he wins a playoff game, I'll leave the board forever.

I'm surprised Tebow doesn't get credit for waking up the Dolphins since they're 4-2 since that game with close losses to Dallas and NY.

Dahoss · #9 12-09-2011, 12:39 PM

All kidding aside, the Broncos success reminds me an awful lot of the Chiefs last year. They had the benefit of playing in that shi.tty division and had a little bit of success. A lot of people failed to really look at who they beat and how and thought they were going to make a strong playoff run, with the thought their future was bright.

They got crushed first round and are 5-7 this year. I can see a similar thing happening to the Tebow's.

horseofcourse · #10 12-09-2011, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Once again, other than beating the Jets in an impossible situation for them:

Dolphins 4-8
Chargers 5-7
Chiefs 5-7
Vikings 2-10

Like I said, if he wins a playoff game, I'll leave the board forever.

If you're gonna do this let's actually list all of them and their records and not the ones who simply make your silly point.

Raiders 7-5
Jets 7-5
Dolphins 4-8
Chargers 5-7
Chiefs 5-7
Vikings 2-10

The Dolphins despite their record are really good at this present time. He's played fine to this point. I actually have no clue about his future, Them going 0-4 their last 4 would not shock me nor would 4-0.

Dahoss · #11 12-09-2011, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

If you're gonna do this let's actually list all of them and their records and not the ones who simply make your silly point.

Raiders 7-5
Jets 7-5
Dolphins 4-8
Chargers 5-7
Chiefs 5-7
Vikings 2-10

The Dolphins despite their record are really good at this present time. He's played fine to this point. I actually have no clue about his future, Them going 0-4 their last 4 would not shock me nor would 4-0.

Isn't it fair to mention they beat the Raiders who were being QB'd by a guy who was on his couch 2 weeks earlier? Or that the Jets were coming off a game 4 days earlier and had to travel?

horseofcourse · #12 12-09-2011, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Isn't it fair to mention they beat the Raiders who were being QB'd by a guy who was on his couch 2 weeks earlier? Or that the Jets were coming off a game 4 days earlier and had to travel?

YEs, about the Raiders, but not the Jets. I'm not really very smart as all of you know. ANd your point about the Chiefs was good too, although I think them missing their star running back pretty much all year hasn't helped them either though even with him I think they struggle all year. I suppose I could use the excuse the Browns lost because they had a game 4 days earlier and had to travel to Pittsburgh but maybe that's not big enough travel?? No, I do not buy the Jets had a game 4 days earlier excuse or that they had to get on a plane.

MaTH716 · #13 12-09-2011, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

If you're gonna do this let's actually list all of them and their records and not the ones who simply make your silly point.

Raiders 7-5
Jets 7-5
Dolphins 4-8
Chargers 5-7
Chiefs 5-7
Vikings 2-10

The Dolphins despite their record are really good at this present time. He's played fine to this point. I actually have no clue about his future, Them going 0-4 their last 4 would not shock me nor would 4-0.

The fish were 0-5 when they played the Broncos.

horseofcourse · #14 12-09-2011, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

The fish were 0-5 when they played the Broncos.

Maybe when they played that game they were starting to get pretty good. But I go back to my point that I'm not very smart. So perhaps they started getting good the NEXT week. I think the week after Denver they went to New York and led the Giants pretty much the whole game.

Antitrust32 · #15 12-09-2011, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Once again, other than beating the Jets in an impossible situation for them:

Dolphins 4-8
Chargers 5-7
Chiefs 5-7
Vikings 2-10
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This is the most overrated statement that people bring up in an attempt to discredit Tebow.

a win is a win in the NFL. and its especially difficult on the road. any team has the capability to be competitive on any sunday (except the colts). the vikings played one of their best games of the season against Tebow and the Broncos still won on the road.

Antitrust32 · #16 12-09-2011, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Why do people who criticized his play as an NFL QB look like idiots now? Because the Broncos are 7-5 in the 2nd worst divison in the NFL?

Impressive. Where is that Zenyatta song again?

there is something incorrect in this post. they are tied for 1st in the division and own the tie braker

MaTH716 · #17 12-09-2011, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Why do people who criticized his play as an NFL QB look like idiots now? Because the Broncos are 7-5 in the 2nd worst divison in the NFL?

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

there is something incorrect in this post. they are tied for 1st in the division and own the tie braker

He didn't say that they were in second, Hossy stated that it's the second worst divison in the league.

Antitrust32 · #18 12-09-2011, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

He didn't say that they were in second, Hossy stated that it's the second worst divison in the league.

good point. i take that back!

though there is something incorrect. he was referencing Tebow critics. Tebow is 6-1, not 7-5. You certainly can't pin the 1-4 start on Tebow.

MaTH716 · #19 12-09-2011, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

good point. i take that back!

though there is something incorrect. he was referencing Tebow critics. Tebow is 6-1, not 7-5. You certainly can't pin the 1-4 start on Tebow.

For Broncos/Tebows fans it is nothing more than a freeroll right now. Regardless of what happens they believe (and rightfully so) that their season is a sucess no matter what. Playoffs weren't even in their vocabulary at the begining of the season and amazingly they still have a chance to get in. For the critics, it more about Tebow's individual performance and more importantly the playoffs, so until Timmy gets them there/wins a playoff game, the critics will pretty much consider it a failed expierment.