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Old 12-07-2011, 01:28 PM
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When I read the article I thought that there had to be some sort of past between the two. The article is so over the top, that it's ridiculous. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the call.

I guess it was a really slow week, news wise in the industry. Or just maybe the guy is just really friendly with Wrona and is just trying give his guy a leg up at Vic's expense. Who knows, who cares? I feel like the writer comes across terribly in this piece. It's so skewed, that he must have some sort of agenda against Vic. It's that obvious.

Osterman wants to talk about bad journalism, maybe he should take a look in the mirror. With all that's wrong in the sport he chooses to use his platform to rip apart a guy who does his job with personality, character and feeling.
Maybe he comes off terribly, but again we're only looking at it from one side. His criticism of Vic saying "darn it" is over the top, I agree. But he says its another example of Vic trying to be "the show." It's probably not the best example, but some do feel like Vic does this. If that is what his point was, he probably could have made it more effectively.

Hopefully Osterman responds or Vic answers if the two of them have a past. Maybe he is valid for having an agenda, maybe not. We don't know. But, it's worth mentioning most of us would have never even seen this if it wasn't posted. I just tried to find the actual article and I couldn't. Who knows what his platform even is.
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Old 12-07-2011, 01:40 PM
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Maybe he comes off terribly, but again we're only looking at it from one side. His criticism of Vic saying "darn it" is over the top, I agree. But he says its another example of Vic trying to be "the show." It's probably not the best example, but some do feel like Vic does this. If that is what his point was, he probably could have made it more effectively.

Hopefully Osterman responds or Vic answers if the two of them have a past. Maybe he is valid for having an agenda, maybe not. We don't know. But, it's worth mentioning most of us would have never even seen this if it wasn't posted. I just tried to find the actual article and I couldn't. Who knows what his platform even is.
Personally, I like when announcers are colorful. I don't think it's a matter of Vic trying to be "The Show", but he is indeed a part of it. For example, most of us don't care for Battaglia. Isn't it because his monotone calls lack some sort of passion and all sound the same? Vic has personality, is Osterman saying that is bad? I also like it when Vic or another announcer uses the jocks name. It doesn't make me think that he's just name dropping because they are friends, if anything it makes me think he's aware and on the ball. As opposed to when an annoucer says something like the rider lost the irons, or is strangling his mount trying to control his speed. That's when I have to look at the form to see whom the jock is. So technically, he is reporting what is going on.

The whole thing is just very strange. Like I said before, this guy has a platform to speak and for him to waste a spot on an article like this makes me think he had an ulterior motive.
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Old 12-07-2011, 01:45 PM
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i agree with maths post. i think the callers should have some personality in their calls. battaglia is just awful-races are supposed to be exciting. he sounds like he's calling paint drying.

as for 'darn it', what's wrong with saying darn it? doesn't sound as tho it was scripted, just sounded like something most of us would say (maybe a bit cleaner on vics part) if a horse pulled up or went wrong. i'm more amazed when a caller doesn't mention it at all-everyone can see that something has happened, but the caller doesn't? i think it's the callers job to give out pertinent info, a horse getting pulled up is definitely important. if a heartfelt darn it gets uttered, so what?
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Old 12-07-2011, 01:58 PM
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Personally, I like when announcers are colorful.
Yeah, it's a matter of preference. I think you can be colorful, while not over the top. We all like different things. Obviously Vic has his fans and he has people that aren't. I'm sure he'll be fine either way.
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