Early Present In My Stocking

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Cardus

It's possible, of course, that there is no agenda and that Osterman is calling it like he sees it.

Since it is not a flattering piece, why must there be some agenda, a friendship elsewhere, or a slow news week?

If it were a flattering piece and someone posted here that there must be some ulterior motive behind publishing it, that poster would get hammered.

To me it just seems like he making mountains out of molehills. So Vic said darn, let's kill him for showing some compassion to a horse that broke down.

Then to the comparison against Wrona (whom I have no issues with, he's a solid announcer).

Wrona calls the tight photos with incredible accuracy and rarely with disclaimers. When he doesn’t take a stand (“oh, they’re out of stride on the line”), there’s a good chance it’s a dead-heat. Stauffer tries to call all the tight ones but there’s always an “I think” or
something else to cover his behind. Still, he blows some outright

Really this is one of the things he's picking on?

Stauffer generally refers to riders by their first names or nicknames (“traveling well for Chantal”, or “Go Go” has so-and-so well placed). Wrona uses the last name and, as any journalism school graduate knows, that’s the way you’re supposed to do it.

I watch a lot of races from Hollywood, does Vic use first names sometimes, sure. But on many occasions he uses the last name too. Once again I don't see what the big deal is.

The only knock ever heard on Wrona is his insistence on calling the finish of every horse in the field which tends to tick off some not interested in being told that their best bet of the day straggled home sixth

Oh, I guess Wrona has his faults too . As far as this and his quip about Wrona always being accurate, I guess it's a lot easier to do when you only have about 6 horses in each race. I know Hollywood doesn't always have full fields either, but it's nothing compared to Northern California.

Trevor Denman may have lost a few steps over the decades but he remains a comfort to us all, even if his catch phrases are beginning to wear a little thin.

Really, says who? It seems like the majority of people whom I talk to and post around here aren't in love with Trevor. Did Mr. Osterman write a pointed article after Trevor missed Strett Sense in the 2006 BC? Or what about when he pleaded for Zenyatta to get up at the wire last year? Aren't those must bigger offenses than Vic saying Darn?

Obviously everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but if you are going to give a total rip job to a guy, you should at least have some valid arguments. To fabricate and exaggerate minor points to make your own agenda look valid is kind of lame.

I'm sure some sort of fluff piece would have gotten mixed reviews around here too. Some would have thought it was nice and others would have maybe mocked and taken a shot or two, especially if the fluff was exaggerated as much as the negatives were in this piece.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

To me it just seems like he making mountains out of molehills. So Vic said darn, let's kill him for showing some compassion to a horse that broke down.

Then to the comparison against Wrona (whom I have no issues with, he's a solid announcer).

Really this is one of the things he's picking on?



I watch a lot of races from Hollywood, does Vic use first names sometimes, sure. But on many occasions he uses the last name too. Once again I don't see what the big deal is.



Oh, I guess Wrona has his faults too . As far as this and his quip about Wrona always being accurate, I guess it's a lot easier to do when you only have about 6 horses in each race. I know Hollywood doesn't always have full fields either, but it's nothing compared to Northern California.



Really, says who? It seems like the majority of people whom I talk to and post around here aren't in love with Trevor. Did Mr. Osterman write a pointed article after Trevor missed Strett Sense in the 2006 BC? Or what about when he pleaded for Zenyatta to get up at the wire last year? Aren't those must bigger offenses than Vic saying Darn?

Obviously everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but if you are going to give a total rip job to a guy, you should at least have some valid arguments. To fabricate and exaggerate minor points to make your own agenda look valid is kind of lame.

I'm sure some sort of fluff piece would have gotten mixed reviews around here too. Some would have thought it was nice and others would have maybe mocked and taken a shot or two, especially if the fluff was exaggerated as much as the negatives were in this piece.

Your wasting a lot of time right now, because he simply does not like Vic. Its been clear for a long time.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Your wasting a lot of time right now, because he simply does not like Vic. Its been clear for a long time.

That's fine if he doesn't like Vic. Same goes for the guy who wrote the article. My issue is that the writer goes public and gives no real basis for the rip job he gave Vic.