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Old 11-22-2011, 02:38 PM
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1:20 flat in the Malibu...Woah.
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Old 11-22-2011, 03:12 PM
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1:20 flat in the Malibu...Woah.
How about 1:57.4 in The Strub?
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Old 11-22-2011, 03:17 PM
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Sorry..have to show my lack of knowledge..Why did he skip the Belmont?
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Old 11-22-2011, 03:19 PM
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Sorry..have to show my lack of knowledge..Why did he skip the Belmont?
He didn't. He lost.
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Old 11-22-2011, 03:22 PM
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He didn't. He lost.
Got it..saw the gap in PPs and wasn't sure..thnx Kev
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Old 11-22-2011, 03:35 PM
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How about 1:57.4 in The Strub?
yeah.. going 44 / 1.08 and change..
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:12 PM
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yeah.. going 44 / 1.08 and change..
I believe Relaunch set the fractions in that race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDbOyu5tTF4
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:40 PM
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I believe Relaunch set the fractions in that race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDbOyu5tTF4
yup - should have elaborated... just trying to visualize how quick a middle move this is... Relaunch set the first quarter, SB got the 3/4th's just a head back of 1.08 and change... Just seems an insanely fast middle move (making up 9 lengths) to close into that number with a half still to come ...
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:47 PM
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yup - should have elaborated... just trying to visualize how quick a middle move this is... Relaunch set the first quarter, SB got the 3/4th's just a head back of 1.08 and change... Just seems an insanely fast middle move (making up 9 lengths) to close into that number with a half still to come ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMWp7hOGrRc
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:07 PM
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Did Spectacular Bid dance in the paddock? If not, I find it hard to really take him seriously, despite his unbelievable career.
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Old 11-23-2011, 05:05 AM
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I believe Relaunch set the fractions in that race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDbOyu5tTF4
Only 3 rivals in that race ... but three quality ones anyway.

* Flying Paster's form going into the Kentucky Derby off of back to back blowout Grade 1 wins.




* Valdez was 3rd beaten 12+ lengths. He was a Grade 1 winner with five Graded Stakes wins on dirt.




* Relaunch was 4th after setting the sharp pace. He was 2nd to John Henry going 12fs on Turf a month later. Relaunch sired a Breeders Cup Classic winner - A Breeders Cup Distaff winner - and was also the dam sire of BC Classic winner Ghostzapper and grandsire of BC Classic winner Tiznow.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:26 PM
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yeah.. going 44 / 1.08 and change..
That is wicked fast. What would those figures be in beyer speed? The fastest ever?
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Old 11-23-2011, 05:12 AM
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That is wicked fast. What would those figures be in beyer speed? The fastest ever?
Believe it or not -- it was not even Spectacular Bid's best Ragozin figure.

In his 3rd to final start -- he won a rich handicap race going 9fs at Arlington Park under 130lbs in track record time of 1:46.20

A horse named Architect -- who was voted Illinois Horse of the Year -- and a winner of 13 of 24 lifetime races including several Graded Stakes wins -- was 3rd beaten 18 lengths while carrying 11 less pounds that day in a field of six. The 2nd place finisher was also a multiple Graded Stakes winner who earned over 400K in the late 70's and 1980.

Bid broke his own record for the fastest Ragozin figure ever with that race -- and it stood for over 22 years.

Beyers weren't published at the time.
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Old 11-23-2011, 05:50 PM
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http://www.drf.com/news/rapid-redux-...ace-fails-fill
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Old 11-23-2011, 06:23 PM
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I love how everyone keeps quoting Citation's 19 wins as the record. What is the timeframe this is supposed to cover? I know some horses won more at the very end of the 19th century. Check Imp's record.
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