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Old 11-22-2011, 02:35 PM
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How about 1:57.4 in The Strub?
yeah.. going 44 / 1.08 and change..
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Old 11-22-2011, 03:12 PM
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yeah.. going 44 / 1.08 and change..
I believe Relaunch set the fractions in that race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDbOyu5tTF4
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Old 11-22-2011, 03:40 PM
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I believe Relaunch set the fractions in that race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDbOyu5tTF4
yup - should have elaborated... just trying to visualize how quick a middle move this is... Relaunch set the first quarter, SB got the 3/4th's just a head back of 1.08 and change... Just seems an insanely fast middle move (making up 9 lengths) to close into that number with a half still to come ...
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Old 11-22-2011, 03:47 PM
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yup - should have elaborated... just trying to visualize how quick a middle move this is... Relaunch set the first quarter, SB got the 3/4th's just a head back of 1.08 and change... Just seems an insanely fast middle move (making up 9 lengths) to close into that number with a half still to come ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMWp7hOGrRc
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:07 PM
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Did Spectacular Bid dance in the paddock? If not, I find it hard to really take him seriously, despite his unbelievable career.
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:28 PM
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Did Spectacular Bid dance in the paddock? If not, I find it hard to really take him seriously, despite his unbelievable career.
Pretty sure he did. I'm thinking it was Guns and Roses "Welcome to the Jungle"

No match for this though..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM1Q5rflpnA
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:42 PM
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Pretty sure he did. I'm thinking it was Guns and Roses "Welcome to the Jungle"

No match for this though..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM1Q5rflpnA
You asked for it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz2kvJf22gs
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Old 11-23-2011, 04:05 AM
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I believe Relaunch set the fractions in that race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDbOyu5tTF4
Only 3 rivals in that race ... but three quality ones anyway.

* Flying Paster's form going into the Kentucky Derby off of back to back blowout Grade 1 wins.




* Valdez was 3rd beaten 12+ lengths. He was a Grade 1 winner with five Graded Stakes wins on dirt.




* Relaunch was 4th after setting the sharp pace. He was 2nd to John Henry going 12fs on Turf a month later. Relaunch sired a Breeders Cup Classic winner - A Breeders Cup Distaff winner - and was also the dam sire of BC Classic winner Ghostzapper and grandsire of BC Classic winner Tiznow.
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:26 PM
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yeah.. going 44 / 1.08 and change..
That is wicked fast. What would those figures be in beyer speed? The fastest ever?
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Old 11-23-2011, 04:12 AM
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That is wicked fast. What would those figures be in beyer speed? The fastest ever?
Believe it or not -- it was not even Spectacular Bid's best Ragozin figure.

In his 3rd to final start -- he won a rich handicap race going 9fs at Arlington Park under 130lbs in track record time of 1:46.20

A horse named Architect -- who was voted Illinois Horse of the Year -- and a winner of 13 of 24 lifetime races including several Graded Stakes wins -- was 3rd beaten 18 lengths while carrying 11 less pounds that day in a field of six. The 2nd place finisher was also a multiple Graded Stakes winner who earned over 400K in the late 70's and 1980.

Bid broke his own record for the fastest Ragozin figure ever with that race -- and it stood for over 22 years.

Beyers weren't published at the time.
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Old 11-23-2011, 04:50 PM
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Old 11-23-2011, 05:23 PM
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I love how everyone keeps quoting Citation's 19 wins as the record. What is the timeframe this is supposed to cover? I know some horses won more at the very end of the 19th century. Check Imp's record.
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Old 11-24-2011, 04:02 AM
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I love how everyone keeps quoting Citation's 19 wins as the record. What is the timeframe this is supposed to cover? I know some horses won more at the very end of the 19th century. Check Imp's record.
Here's another. I'm sure there are probably others.


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Old 11-24-2011, 05:13 AM
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Here's another. I'm sure there are probably others.


Sure, that's an impressive record, but look at the $$ he made. Who was he beating?

Plus, this "Iron horse" had 2 full years of rest during his career... In 91 and 98 he was obviously ducking some stronger competition.
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