D. Wayne Lukas in graded stakes

hockey2315 · #1 10-30-2011, 05:21 PM

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Fair enough. It is an open race, for sure, unless Caleb's Posse's connections smarten up. I thought his Phoenix was poor, as it was a bad field, and I didn't think he ran particularly well, but at the very least, he's not really a synth horse.

What do you do with Dullahan now that he's running on the dirt?

blackthroatedwind · #2 10-30-2011, 05:29 PM

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What do you do with Dullahan now that he's running on the dirt?

Give Dale a hard time for running him there, root for him, but not bet a penny.

hockey2315 · #3 10-30-2011, 05:31 PM

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Give Dale a hard time for running him there, root for him, but not bet a penny.

That's probably the right approach, but I loved his last race so much that I don't know if I can let him go if he's 8-1+. It's not like his brother couldn't handle the main track, and maybe they put him on turf to get him going long as early as possible. Have to look at him a little closer still.

blackthroatedwind · #4 10-30-2011, 05:55 PM

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That's probably the right approach, but I loved his last race so much that I don't know if I can let him go if he's 8-1+. It's not like his brother couldn't handle the main track, and maybe they put him on turf to get him going long as early as possible. Have to look at him a little closer still.

8:1 would be inviting, but I don't buy that he's a dirt horse. However, I can see throwing him in.

Back to the sprint....aren't they all running for second if Jackson Bend decides to go there?

cakes44 · #5 10-30-2011, 06:42 PM

Am I an idiot for thinking Force Freeze has a big shot here?

Agreed on Hamazing Destiny looking to run big though, especially if they can convince Rosario to get back on.

blackthroatedwind · #6 10-30-2011, 06:51 PM

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Am I an idiot for thinking Force Freeze has a big shot here?

Why can't he win? He's run two straight good races.

PatCummings · #7 10-30-2011, 07:04 PM

I think Force Freeze is very live. Spoke to his old trainer Doug Watson, and he said the following:

"He struggled mightily with the all weather! I know he won and had some good runs on it, but he always came back sore. It was a body soreness and it was hard to pin down where he was sore. He also bled pretty badly in some last season except for the Jebel Ali Sprint, where he scoped completely clean."

Bottom line - he needed Lasix and dirt.

cakes44 · #8 10-30-2011, 07:08 PM

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Why can't he win? He's run two straight good races.

What kind of odds are we thinking assuming Jackson Bend and Caleb's Posse both go in the dirt mile?

philcski · #9 10-30-2011, 07:19 PM

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8:1 would be inviting, but I don't buy that he's a dirt horse. However, I can see throwing him in.

Back to the sprint....aren't they all running for second if Jackson Bend decides to go there?

Cross a line through Trappe Shot's run in the mud at Bel (which was still OK) and he's far and away the best in here. Don't really understand why they're going first preference in the Mile.

Most of all, though, as much as I like him I'm very much against Big Drama in here as the ML favorite. Of those that remain, I don't have a great opinion but I'd love to see the NY bred Giant Ryan win.

VOL JACK · #10 10-31-2011, 08:48 AM

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Cross a line through Trappe Shot's run in the mud at Bel (which was still OK) and he's far and away the best in here. Don't really understand why they're going first preference in the Mile.

Most of all, though, as much as I like him I'm very much against Big Drama in here as the ML favorite. Of those that remain, I don't have a great opinion but I'd love to see the NY bred Giant Ryan win.

could not agree more.

blackthroatedwind · #11 10-31-2011, 08:58 AM

I think a knee jerk reaction was made right after the Vosburgh to run him in the Mile.

RockHardTen1985 · #12 10-31-2011, 11:06 AM

Maybe Im the only one, but I dont love Jackson Bend cutting back again. I agree with Phil about Trappe Shot and I believe Euroears is razor sharp right now. What about Amazombie? With Big Drama being a huge question mark this race could totally collapse.

VOL JACK · #13 10-31-2011, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

8:1 would be inviting, but I don't buy that he's a dirt horse. However, I can see throwing him in.

Back to the sprint....aren't they all running for second if Jackson Bend decides to go there?

yes.