Goldikova: Lost a step or as good as ever?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

Here's what you guys gotta ask yourselves- Whether she has lost a step or not, do you wanna have a losing bet in that race because you were foolish enough to leave her off your tickets/wagers/whatever? Let's face it... The best she went up against last year (in the BC Mile) was Gio Ponti. You know she's been running against much better across the pond.

Whether she's lost a step or not, I'm not gonna risk losing a bet by trying to beat her. If you're unsure... maybe the Mile is the one race to sit out betting-wise, and just sit back and watch and hope the old girl has another awesome performance in her. For me, I don't know enough about the other entrants yet to make up my mind whether I'm gonna bet it or not.

I have no problem tossing her in the pick 3's. Beating her turns your payout to an overlay, period. This group she is facing is strong enough. The Euro's look good. Mott's horse is good, and I'll give Mr. Commons a shot. I think the risk is worth the potential reward.

[pmayjr]

Fair, enough... but were you saying the same any of the last 3 years? As I said, I really haven't looked at the other entrants enough in depth yet to really make up my mind. I might end up agreeing with you. It's just she's the known commodity, and without looking that hard it's pretty fair to say every year that what she faces in Europe is usually is as strong if not stronger than what she faces when she comes here.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

Fair, enough... but were you saying the same any of the last 3 years? As I said, I really haven't looked at the other entrants enough in depth yet to really make up my mind. I might end up agreeing with you. It's just she's the known commodity, and without looking that hard it's pretty fair to say every year that what she faces in Europe is usually is as strong if not stronger than what she faces when she comes here.

I have tossed her the last 2 years.

[pmayjr]

all I'm getting at, is I don't wanna get beat by her. I don't wanna be wrong in that race by leaving her out. Even if she's over-bet. Will I single her? Hell no. But you gotta have her on your tickets I think, because you'll feel dumb about it after if you don't.

Sucks too, because as fun as she is to watch, the Mile you could argue was always crazy for long-shots and unpredictability. I'm still scratching my head on how the Rock lost that race years ago. But on the flip side, I had Singletary.

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

all I'm getting at, is I don't wanna get beat by her. I don't wanna be wrong in that race by leaving her out. Even if she's over-bet. Will I single her? Hell no. But you gotta have her on your tickets I think, because you'll feel dumb about it after if you don't.

Sucks too, because as fun as she is to watch, the Mile you could argue was always crazy for long-shots and unpredictability. I'm still scratching my head on how the Rock lost that race years ago. But on the flip side, I had Singletary.

I'll single her in the multi race bets and go deeper elsewhere. I also come up with some strategy to key her UNDER on the verticals. You don't have to spend a whole lot to accomplish a decent hedge with dime supers and $.50 trifecta wagering- unless you think she's off the board. Last year, with the popular Gio Ponti 2nd, you had a $589 ($1) super and $250 tri ($2). But two years ago you had a $705 tri and a $6,628 ($1) super - dont forget Courageous Cat.

I think spreading out the pick 4 in the mile is a waste. Even if she loses, I don't know who is going to do it and it would cost me a fortune to get as deep as I would want to be with her out.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I have tossed her the last 2 years.

and what did the P4 pay last year with her and Blame in it?

Do you really want to miss hitting the P4 by missing her leg? I don't

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by robfla

and what did the P4 pay last year with her and Blame in it?

Do you really want to miss hitting the P4 by missing her leg? I don't

I said pick 3's. I get what your saying.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by robfla

and what did the P4 pay last year with her and Blame in it?

Do you really want to miss hitting the P4 by missing her leg? I don't

I tossed Blame 2 LOL.
Remember I was a big Quality Road guy, I used him and big Z.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I tossed Blame 2 LOL.
Remember I was a big Quality Road guy, I used him and big Z.

ahh.......... I'm sure everyone remembers the I had a dream thread.
Those were the good ole days.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

ahh.......... I'm sure everyone remembers the I had a dream thread.
Those were the good ole days.

His Classic run was bad. My dream may have put the mush on him.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I have tossed her the last 2 years.

and the Pk-3s surrounding her have paid handsomely.