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Old 10-19-2011, 09:05 PM
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Sorry, no. SSI funds are paid, quoting your own article, "The funds are paid out of general taxpayer revenues, not from payroll taxes."

You really should read what you get angry about.
exactly what is your point about nitpicking on this? either way, taxpayers are paying for this fellow to pretend to be a baby. exactly what is his disability?
whether thru payroll taxes, or general revenue, those of us working are supporting this guy. absolutely ridiculous.

edit-ssdi, from wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_...lity_Insurance

Social Security Disability Insurance (SSD or SSDI) is a payroll tax-funded, federal insurance program of the United States government. It is managed by the Social Security Administration and is designed to provide income supplements to people who are physically restricted in their ability to be employed because of a notable disability, usually a physical disability. SSD can be supplied on either a temporary or permanent basis, usually directly correlated to whether the person's disability is temporary or permanent.

Unlike Supplemental Security Income (SSI), SSD does not depend on the income of the disabled individual receiving it. A "legitimately" (i.e. according to the Americans with Disabilities Act, and via other similar legal and medical backing) disabled person of any income level can theoretically receive SSD. Most SSI recipients are below an administratively-mandated income threshold, and indeed these individuals must in fact stay below that threshold to continue receiving SSI; but this is not the case with SSD.

Informal names for SSDI include Disability Insurance Benefits (DIB) and Title II benefits, named for the chapter title of the governing section of the Social Security Act.
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:22 PM
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exactly what is your point about nitpicking on this? either way, taxpayers are paying for this fellow to pretend to be a baby. exactly what is his disability?
What does his being weird have to do with it? Let's make sure those that have weird fetishes don't get government benefits? That would put a dent in Congress, no?

A Senator asked for his benefits to be reviewed, and apparently the guy passed under that increased scruitiny (goodness knows how, but he did). Seeing that "acting like a baby" doesn't fall under the requirements to obtain SSI, and isn't anybody's business but his own, and his medical record can't be published, I doubt that's the reason he gets it.

And nitpicking matters. This guy isn't getting SSDI out of our payroll taxes, he's getting something out of a completely different fund.

Dell is screaming about funding the Social Security Trust fund, and using this an example - but this guy isn't getting any monies out of the Social Security Trust Fund.

If you guys want to play, "all funds are 100% fungible", that's a big stretch.


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Supplemental Security Income (or SSI) - Not to be confused with Social Security Disability Insurance - is a United States government program that provides stipends to low-income people who are either aged (65 or older), blind, or disabled.[1] Although administered by the Social Security Administration,[2] SSI is funded from the U.S. Treasury general funds,[1] not the Social Security trust fund.
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:50 PM
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Old 10-19-2011, 10:17 PM
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What does his being weird have to do with it? Let's make sure those that have weird fetishes don't get government benefits? That would put a dent in Congress, no?

A Senator asked for his benefits to be reviewed, and apparently the guy passed under that increased scruitiny (goodness knows how, but he did). Seeing that "acting like a baby" doesn't fall under the requirements to obtain SSI, and isn't anybody's business but his own, and his medical record can't be published, I doubt that's the reason he gets it.

And nitpicking matters. This guy isn't getting SSDI out of our payroll taxes, he's getting something out of a completely different fund.

Dell is screaming about funding the Social Security Trust fund, and using this an example - but this guy isn't getting any monies out of the Social Security Trust Fund.

If you guys want to play, "all funds are 100% fungible", that's a big stretch.
like i said, what's his disability? i don't care if he's 'weird', but from reading the article, the fellow has woodworking skills.
and nitpicking doesn't matter when the gist is that the govt isn't exactly being good stewards of our money. people get that there are those who need help; it's when you see examples of waste and fraud that people get angry...and rightfully so. some of us feel like fools at times when we work our tails off, only to see people who are capable of earning living off the dole. and it happens, we all know it does.
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Old 10-20-2011, 01:56 PM
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like i said, what's his disability? i don't care if he's 'weird', but from reading the article, the fellow has woodworking skills.
and nitpicking doesn't matter when the gist is that the govt isn't exactly being good stewards of our money.
Well, they can't release his medical records, yet he survived a Senator-ordered, "We suspect you're gaming the system" review and still won, so But whatever it is, it must be 100% solid.

I was thinking about the woodworking thing .. in Finland (Denmark?) if you are unemployed, they pay you a stipend and the government will give you a no-interest loan so you can start your own business if you want. Unemployment practically non-existent there. But obviously a much smaller country, with narrower range of variety in how people think. Even if the crazy-baby guy has some skills and wanted to, there's no way, on SSI, he'd be able to afford to start making furniture to sell. He already lost his home. Shame that in America, the way to pull yourself up is to get a reality TV show.
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he's a fucl<ing lunatic.. that's his disability.
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He already lost his home. Shame that in America, the way to pull yourself up is to get a reality TV show.
how's he going to pull himself up when he wears pull ups?


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It isn't the worst idea I have ever heard. No renting it out though. Would need to be occupied by the purchaser for a predetermined period. I also agree with the engineering degree etc grads getting to stay. MIT diploma = citizenship. Why let them leave.
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how's he going to pull himself up when he wears pull ups?
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