Occupy Wall Street

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

In Philadelphia the protests are much smaller than other places and yet it is still costing taxpayers 80k+ a day in police overtime and sanatation costs.

Well, it's "the taxpayers" that are protesting, as is their civil right under the Constitution and laws of this land, so how is that a problem?

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Well, it's "the taxpayers" that are protesting, as is their civil right under the Constitution and laws of this land, so how is that a problem?

Wrong, the "taxpayers" are at work. Not sitting in a park complaining.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Wrong, the "taxpayers" are at work. Not sitting in a park complaining.

Funny. Alot of the protesters being interviewed have jobs, but have taken time off to attend the protests.

I guess making uneducated blanket assumptions about them is easier than paying attention.

Yes, still in the, " ... then they ridicule you ... " stage.

Funny: I posted three pictures and several videos:

one showing a person holding a check, protesting and marching with hundreds of others regarding the ending this year of one specific NY city tax giveaway that only benefits millionaires on up, but will cut city income by billions and put the onus on others to make up that tax amount

one showing nurses (employed people) demanding specific transaction taxes on two types of financial transactions on Wall Street ("pay for your own bailouts")

one showing a young person wanting repealed laws that protected us from financial malfeasance, such as Glass-Steagall, to be reinstated

Multiple videos showing protesters having good grasp of the economic specifics that have destroyed our economy, and what needs to change to save it.

Yet they are still being classified by some as unemployed neer-do-wells. Dirty effing hippy types. Wow. That's really sad, that some in this country are trying to ridicule the very people that are fighting for things in this country that will better their lives.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Funny. Alot of the protesters being interviewed have jobs, but have taken time off to attend the protests.

I guess making uneducated blanket assumptions about them is easier than paying attention.

Yes, still in the, " ... then they ridicule you ... " stage.

Attending protests is not the same thing as "occupying" in a park and being a general nuisance. I am all for protests especially this version of the government, but taking over a park in the middle of the city is a different story. Our local campers were dispersed last night, glad to see it. They have from 5am until 11pm to peacefully protest to their hearts content and I say good for them.

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Attending protests is not the same thing as "occupying" in a park and being a general nuisance. I am all for protests especially this version of the government, but taking over a park in the middle of the city is a different story. Our local campers were dispersed last night, glad to see it. They have from 5am until 11pm to peacefully protest to their hearts content and I say good for them.

Again...sometimes you have to bend the rules when absolute fu.cking atrocities against mankind have occurred by our government with bank bailouts and multiple endless wars.

Goldman Sachs, Citibank, and JP Morgan cannot be held accountable for the clusterf.uck of 2008. Both parties in D.C. bent over and gave them immunity.

Our government took our tax money and bailed out foreign banks.

I could go on and on and on. I'm trying not to bi.tch you out but quite frankly it's bush league to talk politics and not have a basic understanding of what's going on.

And if you do know what's going on you're basically accepting it. Stop it.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Again...sometimes you have to bend the rules when absolute fu.cking atrocities against mankind have occurred by our government with bank bailouts and multiple endless wars.

Goldman Sachs, Citibank, and JP Morgan cannot be held accountable for the clusterf.uck of 2008. Both parties in D.C. bent over and gave them immunity.

Our government took our tax money and bailed out foreign banks.

I could go on and on and on. I'm trying not to bi.tch you out but quite frankly it's bush league to talk politics and not have a basic understanding of what's going on.

And if you do know what's going on you're basically accepting it. Stop it.

Contrary to how I may come off here, I am for shattering the rules as opposed to bending them. I have a complete understanding of what has gone on and am disgusted by it and would never have gone for it given a voice (but that isn't the world we live in). I am pro-revolution and am aware it is going to happen sooner than later. But this type of thing will not turn out to be the first shot and is therefore open to mockery in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Contrary to how I may come off here, I am for shattering the rules as opposed to bending them. I have a complete understanding of what has gone on and am disgusted by it and would never have gone for it given a voice (but that isn't the world we live in). I am pro-revolution and am aware it is going to happen sooner than later. But this type of thing will not turn out to be the first shot and is therefore open to mockery in my opinion.

Good deal.

It's possible this is the beginning. I'm not convinced they care about the election. Obama could be finished. If that is the case then looking back historically this is a great month for an economic crash.

Dismiss the educated protestors because you see one or two youtube clips of the dumb ones the msm seeks out for interviews.

Of course it's to be expected that most Americans would be dismissive of the protestors. We've been conditioned to obey and heaven forbid we focus on real issues instead of A-Rod or Tim Tebow.

Get back to the important s.hit, lemmings!! Hero worship and fast food has made you mildly retarded.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Well, it's "the taxpayers" that are protesting, as is their civil right under the Constitution and laws of this land, so how is that a problem?

It is a problem because the cities are already broke. If you complain about services being cut then directly lead to more being cut because of your own actions then well then there you have it. Personal responsibility remember?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is a problem because the cities are already broke. If you complain about services being cut then directly lead to more being cut because of your own actions then well then there you have it. Personal responsibility remember?

Then why are you ridiculing the people in the picture legally protesting a $5 billion dollar tax giveaway to millionaires on up in NY city?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Then why are you ridiculing the people in the picture legally protesting a $5 billion dollar tax giveaway to millionaires on up in NY city?

A 5 billion dollar tax giveaway from whom?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

A 5 billion dollar tax giveaway from whom?

Guess those protesters know more than you do. Maybe they could teach you something.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Guess those protesters know more than you do. Maybe they could teach you something.

That $5 billion comes from municipal funds? Of course not. Apples and oranges.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

That $5 billion comes from municipal funds? Of course not. Apples and oranges.

That $5 billion is tax dollars. These people are supporting what you've said you want, and you're dissing them.

[Danzig]

i completely agree that protesters have every right to be heard. i agree with much of the thinking going on that it's ridiculous that the taxpayers are bailing out companies who then pay scads of money to the brass-who were generally the cause of requiring the bailouts. if they were doing so good, and worth so much, you'd think they wouldn't have had to go begging. meanwhile, the commoners keep paying for stuff like that, while watching their jobs and standard of living go down the tubes.

that said, protests can't be allowed to spill into areas not meant for such gatherings, and certainly shouldn't cause damage-whether to shrubs or other city property. after all, taxpayers surely don't want to cost themselves money.

and i have to admit, i always view organized protests a bit cynically, having grown up near d.c., where they hire protesters by the hour and provide signage and catchy slogans.

i'd appreciate a 'taking back' of our govt-i think our pols have become beholden to a few groups, to corporations, to special interests, and don't pay enough attention to who pays all the bills.