TDN: Ashford lands Uncle Mo

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

All of them? I think he's only had two horses who've had offspring race -- Bwana Charlie (4-for-19 lifetime) and Eugene's Third Son (never even won a stakes race in his racing career)

Indian Express (SA Derby runnerup) and Cindago, both have done squat, with very limited books, in California.

[Calzone Lord]

Was Indian Express the best Utah bred of all-time?

[parsixfarms]

I wonder what the guys at WinStar think about this.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Was Indian Express the best Utah bred of all-time?

No.

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

I wonder what the guys at WinStar think about this.

I wonder that too. I thought for certain he was going to be standing there.

I think Winstar does a great job building their stallions. Obviously Ashford has greater resources, but I'd have sent him to Winstar over Ashford.

[asudevil]

He's a phuckin miler! A one turn miler!

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by asudevil

He's a phuckin miler! A one turn miler!

His two-turn BC Juvie win was light years better than his Champagne win.

I think he's a pure distance horse -- I would certainly play against him in the BC dirt mile this year. I don't think he's naturally fast enough to prefer a one-turn mile compared to a two-turn route.

Even if you look at his Moss Pace Fig line in the King's Bishop -- true sprinter/milers don't run weird lines like that.

Sure -- if he gets an easy uncontested lead in the mud over a wet-track going a one-turn mile - he will look like a miler.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

His two-turn BC Juvie win was light years better than his Champagne win.

I think he's a pure distance horse -- I would certainly play against him in the BC dirt mile this year. I don't think he's naturally fast enough to prefer a one-turn mile compared to a two-turn route.

Even if you look at his Moss Pace Fig line in the King's Bishop -- true sprinter/milers don't run weird lines like that.

Sure -- if he gets an easy uncontested lead in the mud over a wet-track going a one-turn mile - he will look like a miler.

I don't know why this is not obvious to more people.

And I disagree with that last part. He didn't look like a miler to me the other day, and he never has.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

No.



I wonder that too. I thought for certain he was going to be standing there.

I think Winstar does a great job building their stallions. Obviously Ashford has greater resources, but I'd have sent him to Winstar over Ashford.

They do?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

They do?

Yeah in Ireland

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

They do?

Are you implying Winstar has more money, more mares and success than Ashford/Coolmore?

If you are, I would like to get some of that stuff you are smoking.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Are you implying Winstar has more money, more mares and success than Ashford/Coolmore?

If you are, I would like to get some of that stuff you are smoking.

Both are well suited to give any major prospect a solid start.