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Old 08-13-2011, 10:15 PM
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that is about the only way i could have picked that horse is with a dart, I believe i did notice that the whole field of 10 or 12 were only seperated by about 2 lengths at the finish
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Old 08-13-2011, 10:51 PM
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If you key off her Appalachian race, there is really no other horse in the race that had run anything close to that. She was marooned on the far outside, raced 5 wide, yet still managed to get within 6.5 lengths of the best turf filly in America.
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Old 08-13-2011, 11:48 PM
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2009 BC mile Furthest Land was 20-1, he had a previous BSF that te rest of field was nowhere near...

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Old 08-14-2011, 07:03 AM
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2009 BC mile Furthest Land was 20-1, he had a previous BSF that te rest of field was nowhere near...


That's maybe the best recent big race example.
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Old 08-14-2011, 07:57 AM
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I didn't get a bet down, but to Justin's point, Santina Dond was not a difficult filly to include or even key off her Thoro-Graph figs as well. She was a crazy price considering she had gotten back to her top (7.5) last time, and was 3rd/4th 'fastest' among Happy Choice (6.5), Notassharpasuthink (6.75) and Holidaysatthefarm (7.5).

I think what made her float to the 30-1 was how much speed was signed on and her appearance as perhaps the cheapest looking of the speeds. To her credit, she was only beaten 6+ lengths by Winter Memories in April (as I see Kev pointed out). I'd like to hear the story of how she went from Keeneland yearling to Poland.
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Old 08-14-2011, 08:49 AM
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I'd like to hear the story of how she went from Keeneland yearling to Poland.
Poland is the new Dubai. As soon as Pat starts a RacenightKrakow.com website they will be there. Of course they have the advantage of not handicapping themselves with synthetic surfaces AND the Keilbasa stand at Warsaw Park is off the charts
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Old 08-14-2011, 10:12 AM
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It's not hard to figure out why the horse was 30/1 --- it was 4th in a starter alw race two-starts back -- and didn't win the day it got the big figure last out.

I'm being super Captain Obvious with this point --- but, whenever a "Top last out fig" horse wins and pays more than 20/1 ... they are typically coming off a big new top and have "cheap" form on the go-back.

Dancing In Silks won the Breeders Cup Sprint less than two years ago at 25/1 as the top Beyer horse coming out of a nose win in a super-fast Cal Cup race.

Obviously War Emblem and Charismatic both won the Kentucky Derby at a huge price as "top last out Beyer" horses -- I think Charismatic was 30/1 ... both of them had very "cheap" form prior to their freakish performances that came from out of nowhere in the Ill Derby (War Emblem's case) and Lexington Stakes (Charismatic's case)
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Old 08-14-2011, 10:14 AM
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I I'd like to hear the story of how she went from Keeneland yearling to Poland.
Given the names of the connections, Vladamir Kazakov owns and Gennadi Dorochenko trains, I can connect the dots from Lexington to Poland.
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Old 08-14-2011, 10:16 AM
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Given the names of the connections, Vladamir Kazakov owns and Gennadi Dorochenko trains, I can connect the dots from Lexington to Poland.
I was joking with someone a few months ago -- there was a card at Mountaineer Park that had 3 different imports from Poland racing on it.
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Given the names of the connections, Vladamir Kazakov owns and Gennadi Dorochenko trains, I can connect the dots from Lexington to Poland.
Uh huh.. Having a Polish last name, I was able to make that connection too. Who are these guys and what's the back story?
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I didn't get a bet down, but to Justin's point, Santina Dond was not a difficult filly to include or even key off her Thoro-Graph figs as well. She was a crazy price considering she had gotten back to her top (7.5) last time, and was 3rd/4th 'fastest' among Happy Choice (6.5), Notassharpasuthink (6.75) and Holidaysatthefarm (7.5).

I think what made her float to the 30-1 was how much speed was signed on and her appearance as perhaps the cheapest looking of the speeds. To her credit, she was only beaten 6+ lengths by Winter Memories in April (as I see Kev pointed out). I'd like to hear the story of how she went from Keeneland yearling to Poland.
yes, to me race seemed absolutely loaded with speed ----closers did come flying but a bit too late and the horse Dominguez rode seemed blocked the most of all
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