Women's preventive health care now easier to afford

[Riot]

Don't try to run away while pulling on your pants, that won't happen.

I can understand falling down one flight. But how did you manage two?

Originally Posted by Riot

Don't try to run away while pulling on your pants, that won't happen.

I can understand falling down one flight. But how did you manage two?

I tried to recover quickly by getting up but my foot was on the top step of the second flight and it was wet due to rain so I slipped again.

I'm real sore and bruised but other than that I'm alright.

I've always had a problem with running up and down stairs too fast.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I tried to recover quickly by getting up but my foot was on the top step of the second flight and it was wet due to rain so I slipped again.

I'm real sore and bruised but other than that I'm alright.

I've always had a problem with running up and down stairs too fast.

You are very, very lucky.

I don't suppose that's on video, on YouTube, or anything ....

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

I don't know what you are talking about. The ACA in it's entirety? The costs are listed in the Wikipedia entry for it, if you want to see how it was paid for. The CBO has scored it a net zero - meaning your taxes are not predicted to go up to pay for any of it.

The birth control thing is a consumer protection for private insurance companies.



I agree. But that was called socialized medicine and death panels, and people feared it and screamed they didn't want that government takeover of their healthcare (they talked about expanding Medicare, not Medicaid). That is essentially what they have come up with temporarily, until the insurance exchanges kick in.

Actually, I think everyone in the country should be able to buy into Medicare if they want.

That would also leave the private insurance companies with only the healthy patients, they would refuse to insure and orphan anyone with any problem at all. That wouldn't work.

i doubt the cbo counts anything that goes towards the states portion. i just read the other day that medicaid is going to explode cost-wise to help pay for what is affectionately termed obama care. that by 2020 the states are going to be in a world of hurt because of their share, that grows every year.

medicare is part of ss. it's supposedly paid for by ss taxes with extra $ required for anything beyond part A, and extra premiums if you don't have that oh so difficult to achieve 40 credits. i can only imagine the sheer cost if people could just jump in earlier...as i said above, i know this state has something in place to cover those who can't otherwise find insurance, either due to prohibitive cost, pre-existing conditions, etc. i doubt arkansas is the only one to have this program. medicaid is for the indigent, medicare for the elderly...problem is, medicaid is so beyond screwed up already, i don't know how they'll handle the increase they're about to get. or how we'll pay for it.

[Danzig]

Obamacare does help the states with funding in the early years, but the Medicaid expansion soon becomes just another unfunded mandate. From the report (emphasis in original):

The massive increases in new federal spending under the health care law did not include the new Medicaid state spending mandates; and American taxpayers are still discovering the extent of PPACA’s costs. In 2017, state governments will be forced to spend new money on expanded Medicaid populations, and by 2020, the states will shoulder these new costs fully. The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) originally estimated new state spending on Medicaid at $20 billion between 2017 and 2019, and an independent report from the Kaiser Commission on Medicaid and the Uninsured found that new state spending would be even higher at $43.2 billion through 2019. More recently, CBO has estimated a $60 billion cost to the states through 2021. …This report conservatively estimates that PPACA will cost state taxpayers at least $118.04 billion through 2023.

The state-by-state findings9 of this report indicate just how unrealistic PPACA’s Medicaid mandates are for the states. California will spend at least another $19.4 billion on Medicaid; perhaps that is why former Governor Schwarzenegger said, “It is not reform to push more costs on states that are already struggling … and this bill … is a disaster for California…” The Texas Health and Human Services Commission estimated that Texas alone will be forced to spend $27 billion—more than the program’s entire annual budget today. The state of Idaho found that the law would grow its Medicaid program by nearly 50 percent. With $675 million in new costs for his state, it is not surprising that Governor Beshear (D-KY) recently said, “I have no idea how we’re going to pay for it.” Finally, former Governor Bredesen (D-TN) noted reality: “I can’t think of a worse time for this bill to be coming … nobody’s going to put their state into bankruptcy or their education system in the tank for it.”

[Danzig]

and another google result:

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...-state-budgets

and this:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...854557922.html

[dagolfer33]

....while we are on the subject of healthcare, my doc sends me a letter yesterday saying he will be converting his practice to "MDVIP". Is this a scam or what???

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by dagolfer33

....while we are on the subject of healthcare, my doc sends me a letter yesterday saying he will be converting his practice to "MDVIP". Is this a scam or what???

don't buy any green bananas.......

[Antitrust32]

The one thing our country should offer for free is birth control.

now if you could only convince the population to actually use the free resource....

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i doubt the cbo counts anything that goes towards the states portion. i just read the other day that medicaid is going to explode cost-wise to help pay for what is affectionately termed obama care. that by 2020 the states are going to be in a world of hurt because of their share, that grows every year.

medicare is part of ss. it's supposedly paid for by ss taxes with extra $ required for anything beyond part A, and extra premiums if you don't have that oh so difficult to achieve 40 credits. i can only imagine the sheer cost if people could just jump in earlier...as i said above, i know this state has something in place to cover those who can't otherwise find insurance, either due to prohibitive cost, pre-existing conditions, etc. i doubt arkansas is the only one to have this program. medicaid is for the indigent, medicare for the elderly...problem is, medicaid is so beyond screwed up already, i don't know how they'll handle the increase they're about to get. or how we'll pay for it.

States are broke. Most of them have been living off federal stimulus money to help balance their budgets and avoid layoffs the past 2 years. Medicaid is a very expensive program, as those people are, as you say, indigent, and most can't work and often are younger, or have certain disabilities.

I think that allowing a younger, healthier population to buy into Medicare would be awesome - it would help save the system, too, with cash influx.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dagolfer33

....while we are on the subject of healthcare, my doc sends me a letter yesterday saying he will be converting his practice to "MDVIP". Is this a scam or what???

No, it's no scam, but go to the website and see if it's for you. Doctors are desperately trying to get back to practicing medicine, and not just doing what the insurance codes say they can do for a patient.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

The one thing our country should offer for free is birth control.

now if you could only convince the population to actually use the free resource....

It's not like the government is handing it out or anything You have to be insured with a private insurer, and it is part of the new lower preventive health care stuff that the ACA is trying to institute. No copay for birth control (and other preventive cares) so patients will actually have no excuse to do it. Remember when insurance companies wouldn't ever pay for screening mammograms? And many don't want to pay for a screening colonoscopy? Same idea.