Lawyer Ron, his works

Originally Posted by Pointg5

I read the article on Bloodhorse, they were talking about Premium Tap's work and it looked like he and LR worked on the same day, there was a significant difference in time. That might be a bad thing, but we all know LR can roll, so I took it as a positive...

Of course its a postitive. Once you know a horse has speed you don't need to impress the clockers every 7 days and show everyone how fast your horse is. You want controlled energy with even 8th's and a strong gallop out so that the horse knows he's supposed to finish.
I guess I brought it up because the notion that his rankness couldn't be dealt with appears to be a fallacy.

[Pointg5]

I think he still has some upside, he wasn't spotted that well, until the beginning of the year, then by that time he had run alot. His sheet #'s weren't bad and with the break and trainer change, I think he can improve. I don't like him in the Classic, but he's a board threat if he goes...Pletcher might not have a say, but I would think he would rather run in the Clark...

Originally Posted by Pointg5

I think he still has some upside, he wasn't spotted that well, until the beginning of the year, then by that time he had run alot. His sheet #'s weren't bad and with the break and trainer change, I think he can improve. I don't like him in the Classic, but he's a board threat if he goes...Pletcher might not have a say, but I would think he would rather run in the Clark...

He could be a great four year old.

[paisjpq]

Mike can you post his numbers...he's not on my list. I'm no fan of LR but if he's 'learning' then he deserves a look.

[Pointg5]

Is that a cattle dog in your avatar?

[Danzig]

looks like a corgi to me

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

looks like a corgi to me

I think you are right...

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Pointg5

Is that a cattle dog in your avatar?

pembroke wesh corgi...Mrs. P...or paisley...whichever she will come to...and she's very busy...and 'talkative'

Originally Posted by paisjpq

pembroke wesh corgi...Mrs. P...or paisley...whichever she will come to...and she's very busy...and 'talkative'

Thats an AWESOME pic of the dog!!! Looks like something really has its attention. What did you do, show the dog the works since Pletcher had taken over the horse?

Originally Posted by paisjpq

Mike can you post his numbers...he's not on my list. I'm no fan of LR but if he's 'learning' then he deserves a look.

I think hes learning, and also being taught. The lack of respect Todd gets as a conditioner even after all he's done is incredible to me.

Pre Pletcher works:
August 19th CD 5f 59:1 1/20
September 9th CD 6f 1:11 1/1
September 16th CD 5f 59:3 1/34

Post Pletcher works:
October 9th Bel 4f 48 4/41
October 16th Bel 5f 1:01:4 6/11
October 22nd Bel 5f 1:01:1 11/79

You make the call.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by oracle80

I think hes learning, and also being taught. The lack of respect Todd gets as a conditioner even after all he's done is incredible to me.

Pre Pletcher works:
August 19th CD 5f 59:1 1/20
September 9th CD 6f 1:11 1/1
September 16th CD 5f 59:3 1/34

Post Pletcher works:
October 9th Bel 4f 48 4/41
October 16th Bel 5f 1:01:4 6/11
October 22nd Bel 5f 1:01:1 11/79

You make the call.

no disrespect to Todd...I just don't really like the horse. Thanks for the #'s looks like he's makin' some changes...I hope they don't translate to BC day b'cause I'm still not using him

Originally Posted by paisjpq

no disrespect to Todd...I just don't really like the horse. Thanks for the #'s looks like he's makin' some changes...I hope they don't translate to BC day b'cause I'm still not using him

Thats fine but the bleeding hearts screaming that the owner was wrong to change things up with a rank horse who wasn't finishing really should examine the ATTEMPT that the new guys is making and consider if their remarks were ill advised.

[LARHAGE]

Originally Posted by oracle80

I think hes learning, and also being taught. The lack of respect Todd gets as a conditioner even after all he's done is incredible to me.

Pre Pletcher works:
August 19th CD 5f 59:1 1/20
September 9th CD 6f 1:11 1/1
September 16th CD 5f 59:3 1/34

Post Pletcher works:
October 9th Bel 4f 48 4/41
October 16th Bel 5f 1:01:4 6/11
October 22nd Bel 5f 1:01:1 11/79

You make the call.

Well if he can relax and rate in his races I'll be impressed, horses are creatures of habit and this horse in a race will get the juices flowing again, in the mornings it's a LOT easier to get them to slow down when they're alone and they concentrate on you. I don't care if he has him doing the Texas Twostep and whistlin Dixie in the morning, it's a different scenario in the actual race. Intercontinental was not NEARLY the head case she was in the mornings as she was in her races.