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Old 07-26-2011, 06:59 PM
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The housing bubble bursting played a big part in causing the recession. People borrowing $$ that they couldn't afford to pay back, and banks loaning $$ without checking credit history (or ignoring it). Now our benevolent Govt. who says it can't pay it's bills, wants to borrow more $$ to pay it's bills. Social Security was supposed to be solvent for years to come according to the Dems. Obama says he can't guarantee SS checks will be mailed out first week in Aug unless he's given the authority to borrow more $$. Somebody is lying. Obama is acting like a child in a toy store who is being told to put a toy back . News Flash .. our credit rating is going to be degraded even with a raise in the debt ceiling. We have to get spending under control. Would you loan $$ to someone who can't pay their bills?
Obama can't guarantee the SS checks will go out. Curious if the welfare checks will also NOT go out.
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Old 07-26-2011, 07:22 PM
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Obama can't guarantee the SS checks will go out. Curious if the welfare checks will also NOT go out.
Riot is 100% right. The economy is great. The country is moving in the right direction and if you don't agree with him you are either a racist or just dumb.

Isn't this liberal crap getting old. Open your eyes.
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Old 07-26-2011, 08:40 PM
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Riot is 100% right. The economy is great.
I've not been saying that, have I.

Geeshus, the passive-aggressive snarky victim crap is old.
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Old 07-27-2011, 06:33 AM
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Riot is 100% right. The economy is great. The country is moving in the right direction and if you don't agree with him you are either a racist or just dumb.

Isn't this liberal crap getting old. Open your eyes.
Riot did not say that. I think she meant to say that anything that IS wrong with the economy is the fault of George W. Bush in the past, and any Republicans in the present.

Certainly not the fault of the Annointed One - forgive me - no sacrelege intended
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Old 07-27-2011, 02:45 PM
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Riot did not say that. I think she meant to say that anything that IS wrong with the economy is the fault of George W. Bush in the past, and any Republicans in the present.

Certainly not the fault of the Annointed One - forgive me - no sacrelege intended

Ewww, you actually watch Hannity?

Anybody paying attention to the complete disaster the Republican Party & Tea Party marriage has become today in Washington? Boehner's "deal" scored below a trillion by CBO, while Harry Reids deal scored easily over a trillion, so Boehner used that excuse to pull his planned vote today from the floor - but the Tea Party already told him they wouldn't vote for it. And it was leaked today that Republicans are lobbying each other against Boehner.

The current Republican Party in the House is a complete disaster that literally cannot govern.
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Old 07-27-2011, 02:53 PM
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Because Boehner is an orange idiot.
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Old 07-27-2011, 02:56 PM
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Because Boehner is an orange idiot.
I'm actually starting to feel a little sorry for the guy. He is a typical career politician, wholly owned by lobbyists. But at least he knows how to make a deal, and made a couple good ones with Obama for spending cuts and revenue increases, until the crazy Tea Party squashed it.

Eric Cantor has the guy by the balls. I don't know who wrote that speech they made him read the other night to rebut Obama, but even he was embarrassed by having to say those ridiculous words in public.

The trouble is, he and his little merry band of loons are mucking up the entire government of the United States with their temper tantrums and ignorant desire to harm this nation.
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Can't blame this mess on the Tea Party. They didn't create the debt and they were elected to stop these globalist puppets from putting more on the credit card.

Adding debt will only make it a bigger problem long term. I'm fairly young. Old people need to sacrifice now.
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Ewww, you actually watch Hannity?

Anybody paying attention to the complete disaster the Republican Party & Tea Party marriage has become today in Washington? Boehner's "deal" scored below a trillion by CBO, while Harry Reids deal scored easily over a trillion, so Boehner used that excuse to pull his planned vote today from the floor - but the Tea Party already told him they wouldn't vote for it. And it was leaked today that Republicans are lobbying each other against Boehner.

The current Republican Party in the House is a complete disaster that literally cannot govern.
To be fair the only reason Reid's plan saves $1+ trillion is that he makes reference to the winding down of wars where Boehner's plan does not.
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To be fair the only reason Reid's plan saves $1+ trillion is that he makes reference to the winding down of wars where Boehner's plan does not.
Not to mention that unemployment will increase when the troops come home. It's estimated that unemployment would be 12% without the wars...minimum.
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Old 07-27-2011, 03:05 PM
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To be fair the only reason Reid's plan saves $1+ trillion is that he makes reference to the winding down of wars where Boehner's plan does not.
True. All the plans from both sides have alot of smoke and mirrors.

The point is zero plans should be considered right now. Raise the damn debt ceiling, it's a routine accounting procedure having nothing to do with future spending.

Then, if you are serious about cutting spending, and raising revenue, sit down and do it, and come up with all the plans you want, which you can implement whenever you want.

Choices:

Obama invokes the 14th because Boehner is literally prevented from doing anything by the Tea Party 5-1

House Dems save Boehner's ass by voting for the Senate Reid plan, with Boehner adding in 3/4 of the "normal" Republicans while allowing the 47 crazy Tea Party to be cut lose 10-1, I don't think he can pull it off. There is disastrous turmoil in that caucus, even with Wall Street calling the shots.
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Obama can't guarantee the SS checks will go out. Curious if the welfare checks will also NOT go out.
Sorry Deb- no more free stuff
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Sorry Deb- no more free stuff
I never got any "free stuff" but I'm getting tired of paying for others to get it.
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I never got any "free stuff" but I'm getting tired of paying for others to get it.
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Old 07-28-2011, 07:24 AM
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Too bad the whole country can't be run like New Hampshire. They have no career politicians because they pay their politicians a huge $100 a year and that number isn't missing any zero's.
Their schools are always rated in the top 3. Their roads are in great shape and in the winter they are always plowed. The town I used to live in even picked up your trash for free.
But the best thing about NH is they do all this with NO income tax and NO sales tax.
You ask yourself how can they do this and the answer is they are mainly a population of hard working AMERICANS that aren't just looking at handouts because they don't give out many handouts. That might explain why there are so few (RACIST WARNING) illegal aliens and minorities.
In closing i will say that it's not a Republican state or a Democatic state. It's just a state where people work together to make a good life for themselves and their children. Wish I still lived there and not in this piece of crap state they call New York.
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Old 07-28-2011, 02:46 PM
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You ask yourself how can they do this and the answer is they are mainly a population of hard working AMERICANS that aren't just looking at handouts because they don't give out many handouts.
Well, I think it's more likely because they are a population of only just over a million people, rather than 330 million people, and on a very tiny bit of land at only 2000 square miles. It's quite a bit easier to manage.
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Well, I think it's more likely because they are a population of only just over a million people, rather than 330 million people, and on a very tiny bit of land at only 2000 square miles. It's quite a bit easier to manage.
9,304 sq. miles but who's counting!
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