BC to phase out raceday meds; No Lasix for '12 Juvenile events

Scav · #1 07-15-2011, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Wait until the next big thing skips the BC because he/she is a known bleeder.

Better yet, watch the faces of the chalk eaters when the favorite pulls up at the top of the stretch.

Absolutely makes it unbettable in 2013. Guess I'll have to go this year and next year and be done with horse racing after that

Thunder Gulch · #2 07-15-2011, 11:04 AM

As long as they don't make me give up my raceday meds.

PatCummings · #3 07-15-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Absolutely makes it unbettable in 2013. Guess I'll have to go this year and next year and be done with horse racing after that

Forget about say, the Del Cap being unbettable, Scav is saying 15 races almost 2.5 years from now are unbettable. Brilliant!

pointman · #4 07-15-2011, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PatCummings

Forget about say, the Del Cap being unbettable, Scav is saying 15 races almost 2.5 years from now are unbettable. Brilliant!

Yeah, those Arabs and Euros do everything better than we do in America.

PatCummings · #5 07-15-2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pointman

Yeah, those Arabs and Euros do everything better than we do in America.

Now that was a non-sequitur.

Scav · #6 07-15-2011, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PatCummings

Forget about say, the Del Cap being unbettable, Scav is saying 15 races almost 2.5 years from now are unbettable. Brilliant!

So you are going to want to risk your hard earned money on a race where out of the say 14 starters, 10 of them are going to be Lasix Off and then you have to predict who is gonna handle that. No thank you.

That is why its unbettable to me now.

PatCummings · #7 07-15-2011, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

So you are going to want to risk your hard earned money on a race where out of the say 14 starters, 10 of them are going to be Lasix Off and then you have to predict who is gonna handle that. No thank you.

That is why its unbettable to me now.

Who says they are going to be "Lasix off" in the BC only? If you know the BC races are Lasix off, maybe horses will be prepared without Lasix in advance of that knowledge...

Overall, I just think it was premature to say it will automatically be bad betting.

Indian Charlie · #8 07-15-2011, 12:57 PM

It's going to be an advantage to trainers that can get away with stuff that others cannot.

Same as it ever was.

Scav · #9 07-15-2011, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PatCummings

Who says they are going to be "Lasix off" in the BC only? If you know the BC races are Lasix off, maybe horses will be prepared without Lasix in advance of that knowledge...

Overall, I just think it was premature to say it will automatically be bad betting.

Here is what I know. Out of the 6 race horses that we have in racing, 4 of them couldn't compete at the lowest levels of racing, say Beulah Park, if it wasn't for Lasix.

Meanwhile, because of Lasix, we compete at levels the horse is capable of because we prevent him from being in pain, while 1000% sound.

Riot · #10 07-15-2011, 01:06 PM

Lasix is the least of our problems, and enables thousands of horses to participate in American-style dirt speed racing. What a silly thing to go after.

JJP · #11 07-15-2011, 01:07 PM

Why not just make the damned purses in Euros? Oh yeah, the Euro will probably be non-existant by the 2012 running.

pointman · #12 07-15-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PatCummings

Who says they are going to be "Lasix off" in the BC only? If you know the BC races are Lasix off, maybe horses will be prepared without Lasix in advance of that knowledge...

Overall, I just think it was premature to say it will automatically be bad betting.

Please enlighten us on the positives of banning Lasix on a race day. Please don't make the nonsensical claims that it masks other drugs or that it has weakened the breed.

PatCummings · #13 07-15-2011, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman

Please enlighten us on the positives of banning Lasix on a race day. Please don't make the nonsensical claims that it masks other drugs or that it has weakened the breed.

I have made no comments in this thread on whether banning Lasix is good or not. I'm saying that it is foolishly premature to say it will be bad betting, and equally premature to assume all horses in the 2013 BC will be running "Lasix off."

Cannon Shell · #14 07-16-2011, 01:52 AM

Depending on the state in which the BC is held, they may not be able to ban Lasix. You can't just take your horse off when you want and then go back on when you want. The BC to my knowledge has no power to supersede the rules of racing in an individual state so I don't think this is a settled issue.

By the way here is an interesting article from years ago when everything ws supposedly wonderful

http://articles.latimes.com/1990-10-...1_horse-racing

Another one
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/199...orsemen-l-word

http://articles.latimes.com/1992-05-...le-crown-races

pointman · #15 07-15-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Absolutely makes it unbettable in 2013. Guess I'll have to go this year and next year and be done with horse racing after that

Or hopefully this will be the end of the Breeder's Cup and NYRA will reinstate the fall Championship series for those that want to run on real dirt with Lasix.

Scav · #16 07-15-2011, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by pointman

Or hopefully this will be the end of the Breeder's Cup and NYRA will reinstate the fall Championship series for those that want to run on real dirt with Lasix.

I was gonna mention this yesterday, they should just take over this thing, let the BC fart around with some BS horse from South Africa and India and do it the right way.