Michelle Bachmann

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

no doubt one segment of unintended pregnancy was birth control failure. i met a lady a few years back who was in her third trimester. she'd had her tubes tied a few years before-you'd think that would be fool proof-but it's not. i had to sign a paper back when i had mine done acknowledging there was a slight chance of pregnancy.
then there are guys who have had vasectomies-that's not 100% either. neither is the pill, condoms, etc.

"the condom broke" is not a good excuse for me. If that happens.. go take the morning after pill. If you dont do that and end up pregnant, your fault. if you take the pill every day at the same time, you have like a less than 1% chance of getting pregnant. Just being on the pill and skipping doses is not birth control, its being irresponsible.

my 22 year old friend just got knocked up with her 3rd child. she says "I was on the pill" blah blah blah. then she admitted she would forget doses and not take it at the same time. thats not birth control failure. thats personal failure.

now if you have tubes tied or a vasectomy and you still get pregnant.. well that is the definition of birth control failure. but I would guess that might happen for 1 out of every 5,000 unintended pregnancies.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

"the condom broke" is not a good excuse for me. If that happens.. go take the morning after pill. If you dont do that and end up pregnant, your fault. if you take the pill every day at the same time, you have like a less than 1% chance of getting pregnant. Just being on the pill and skipping doses is not birth control, its being irresponsible.

my 22 year old friend just got knocked up with her 3rd child. she says "I was on the pill" blah blah blah. then she admitted she would forget doses and not take it at the same time. thats not birth control failure. thats personal failure.

now if you have tubes tied or a vasectomy and you still get pregnant.. well that is the definition of birth control failure. but I would guess that might happen for 1 out of every 5,000 unintended pregnancies.

i would take the morning after pill-which is something that many equate with abortion. but then, they also say the pill is murder...
at any rate, too many people must feel they're bulletproof. but i tend to give people benefit of the doubt-if it's unintended, i would have to think something was done to prevent it...other than the withdrawal method that is!!

and condom failure doesn't necessarily mean that it was obvious the sucker broke.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i would take the morning after pill-which is something that many equate with abortion. but then, they also say the pill is murder...
at any rate, too many people must feel they're bulletproof. but i tend to give people benefit of the doubt-if it's unintended, i would have to think something was done to prevent it...other than the withdrawal method that is!!

and condom failure doesn't necessarily mean that it was obvious the sucker broke.

the morning after pill equating murder is really just a Catholic problem. they just need to deal.

I certainly dont give people the benefit of the doubt when it comes to getting pregnant when you dont want to. thats one of the biggest responsibilities on the planet, to be a parent.

you'd be surprised about how many young people use no methods. Girls dont want to pay for the pill. the guy doesnt want rubber in the way. "oh.. we'll pull out!!" dumb motherfucl<ers.

condoms shouldnt be the only relied upon method in the first place. it should be a backup plan and an STD reduction plan. "it broke" excuse is a load of crap.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Right. Stop terminating the lives of the innocent through abortion.

I'm anti-abortion. Very. The difference between you and me is that you want to poke your nose into other people's lives, and dictate how they live.

You don't have the right in this country.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by jms62

I got the solution, we vote on it and if the Pro-Lifers win then no more abortions HOWEVER a woman still can choose not to have the baby and it is assigned via lottery to one of the lucky winners that voted to eliminate abortions.

Excellent idea.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I dont respect the practice, but the last thing we need are millions of unwanted children that the taxpayers would have to pay for.

Oh, they don't want to pay for them. Check out the full range of political positions of the rabid anti-abortion crowd. They rarely support Medicaid, food assistance programs, Planned Parenthood, etc.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

how do they possibly take away from the board? you have to click on the link and if you click that means you want to view it.

Byk doesnt give a crap about the politics section.

why would people not talk politics if there is a section called "politics?" it takes nothing away from all the other subforums.

its purely your opinion, which i strongly disagree with.


the only thing that takes away from the horse racing board, IMO, is the lack of good racing. Shoot, I watched the ESPY's last night and it showed Zenyatta's second place finish like 5 times, but no other races and no mention of Blame, the winner of the race. That says something about the state of horse racing in 2011.

You still ignore the question. Do people go to a political board to discuss horse racing?

Of course it takes away from the other sections. People carry grudges onto other sections, and instead of discussing racing, which is what the board is based on, people spend all day talking about Michelle Bachmann or abortion.

I'm sure Byk is real excited about that. He tries to promote racing, not politics.

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

How many of the people that spend most of their time in this room bet frequently? In my opinion, not many besides Chuck and Dell. That's fine, there isn't some requirement on betting, but again, this is a board on racing.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

You still ignore the question. Do people go to a political board to discuss horse racing?

Of course it takes away from the other sections. People carry grudges onto other sections, and instead of discussing racing, which is what the board is based on, people spend all day talking about Michelle Bachmann or abortion.

I'm sure Byk is real excited about that. He tries to promote racing, not politics.



How many of the people that spend most of their time in this room bet frequently? In my opinion, not many besides Chuck and Dell. That's fine, there isn't some requirement on betting, but again, this is a board on racing.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

You still ignore the question. Do people go to a political board to discuss horse racing?

Of course it takes away from the other sections. People carry grudges onto other sections, and instead of discussing racing, which is what the board is based on, people spend all day talking about Michelle Bachmann or abortion.

I'm sure Byk is real excited about that. He tries to promote racing, not politics.



How many of the people that spend most of their time in this room bet frequently? In my opinion, not many besides Chuck and Dell. That's fine, there isn't some requirement on betting, but again, this is a board on racing.

i just dont understand your opinion. Byk doesnt even read the politics forum. And nobody has to explain themselves on how they choose to occupy their time.


there are no betting requirements, like you said, or even horse racing requirements. I've known Byk for probably 15 years, and racing is a big part of my life (used to be more) so that is what brought me here. I just happen to have more to say down here than in the Padlock. I don't bet much because I dont have extra money to lose. I use it for golf.

and the amount of hits the politics subforum generate probably actually help the website when it comes to popularity.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by jms62

You never struck me as a frequent contributor in this section. I apologize.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

You never struck me as a frequent contributor in this section. I apologize.

he plays the "everybody sucks" character... and he's pretty correct about that!

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

i just dont understand your opinion. Byk doesnt even read the politics forum. And nobody has to explain themselves on how they choose to occupy their time.


there are no betting requirements, like you said, or even horse racing requirements. I've known Byk for probably 15 years, and racing is a big part of my life (used to be more) so that is what brought me here. I just happen to have more to say down here than in the Padlock. I don't bet much because I dont have extra money to lose. I use it for golf.

and the amount of hits the politics subforum generate probably actually help the website when it comes to popularity.

You don't need to understand my opinion. I certainly don't understand a lot of yours. It is what it is.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

he plays the "everybody sucks" character... and he's pretty correct about that!

And that's a shame when "Dark Cloud" Randall and I agree on alot.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

You don't need to understand my opinion. I certainly don't understand a lot of yours. It is what it is.

nice subtle dig. i probably should be happy with that second sentence.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by jms62

And that's a shame when "Dark Cloud" Randall and I agree on alot.

lol doom and gloom. this place is a lot like Revelations.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

nice subtle dig. i probably should be happy with that second sentence.

Not a dig at all. It's the truth. We disagree a lot.

You've seen me in action long enough to know if I was going to dig, I would just dig. Like you just did.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Not a dig at all. It's the truth. We disagree a lot.
.

I guess I dont pay much attention. I dont see our massive disagreements, besides a few things like Hope Solo, the benefit of certain posters, etc.

[clyde]

I don't agree with anyone.


I think you all have strange ideas...and thoughts...and agendas...and mind control experiments have been successfully performed on many here.

I wasn't born too early nor too late;I was merely born on the wrong planet and in the wrong dimension.







I'm sorry.

I should not have said what I did say.

[clyde]

But I still think Riot is an ombudsmanHO.

[clyde]

And Dino Velvet is a sick person.