Women's World Cup

GBBob · #1 07-13-2011, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Verlander 20 starts 12-4 2.15 era 151 IP 101 H 12HR 31BB 147K 4CG WAR 4.5
Halladay 19 starts 11-3 2.45 era 143 IP 129 H 8HR 17BB 138k 6CG WAR 5.1

Considering that Verlander pitches in a decidedly pitchers park and Halladay pitches in a decidedly hitters park it splitting hairs either way.

And if you are going to use advanced metrics as Slotdirt often does it should be noted that Halladays Wins above replacement (WAR) is not only the best in the MLB but Verlander isnt 2nd (4th)

My point remains that there is no way that 99% of managers/GM's are taking Verlander based on this seasons results.

And the irony is I probably would take Verlander too.

I think any advantage you want to give Verlander for pitching in a "pitchers" park, when at home, is offset by the fact that Halladay gets an auto out at least once every 9 batters at least 75% of the time. Outside of Adam Dunne, Verlander has no easy outs.

slotdirt · #2 07-13-2011, 02:20 PM

By the by, guy having the most under the radar awesome season this year has to be Gio Gonzalez. That guy's numbers are also pretty sparkling.

slotdirt · #3 07-13-2011, 02:22 PM

How about now, Clyde?

Found a different one - no X.

clyde · #4 07-13-2011, 02:25 PM

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How about now, Clyde? On the left...

ER...that's a big X.

Well ya got me here...not following.

slotdirt · #5 07-13-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde

Well ya got me here...not following.

Try again.

Dahoss · #6 07-13-2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

How about now, Clyde?

Found a different one - no X.

clyde · #7 07-13-2011, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

At east she dosen't look like a converted man, but doesn't do much for me.

Antitrust32 · #8 07-13-2011, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

By the by, guy having the most under the radar awesome season this year has to be Gio Gonzalez. That guy's numbers are also pretty sparkling.

yes... it would have been nice if the Phillies hadnt traded him a few years ago! Gonzalez is a real good pitcher

slotdirt · #9 07-13-2011, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

I think any advantage you want to give Verlander for pitching in a "pitchers" park, when at home, is offset by the fact that Halladay gets an auto out at least once every 9 batters at least 75% of the time. Outside of Adam Dunne, Verlander has no easy outs.

Joe Mauer 2011 begs to differ! Adam Dunn's not the only albatross in the Al Central.

slotdirt · #10 07-13-2011, 02:36 PM

clyde should also google (or oogle, either way) Heather Mitts. She's like the Anna Kournikova of women's soccer.

MaTH716 · #11 07-13-2011, 02:38 PM

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clyde should also google (or oogle, either way) Heather Mitts. She's like the Anna Kournikova of women's soccer.

She has her own damn website.
http://heathermitts.com/

clyde · #12 07-13-2011, 03:46 PM

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She has her own damn website.
http://heathermitts.com/

Her head does not fit her body.

Ah don't lak her.

MaTH716 · #13 07-13-2011, 03:50 PM

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Her head does not fit her body.

Ah don't lak her.

You sir, are a sissy.

clyde · #14 07-13-2011, 03:53 PM

A sissy I may be...but ah don't lak her.

Ah be an Eskeemo man.

somerfrost · #15 07-13-2011, 03:56 PM

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Her head does not fit her body.

Ah don't lak her.

While the women of the US team are there based on their ability I find it funny how guys in general respond on the net...there is not a single one of the players pictured in this thread that any guy who is (1) heterosexual and (2) not blind or mentally deficient wouldn't give his left testicle to be with. Since the net began, guys have posted as if they are all god's gift to women who somehow have earned the right to downplay the beauty of every woman on earth. Easy to sit behind a computer free from scrutiny and degrade beautiful women...would love to see what the average male poster really is able to attract...just one of those things that while funny is completely divorced from reality. I'm an old man and freely admit it, guess some folks are too insecure to do the same.

clyde · #16 07-13-2011, 03:57 PM

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While the women of the US team are there based on their ability I find it funny how guys in general respond on the net...there is not a single one of the players pictured in this thread that any guy who is (1) heterosexual and (2) not blind or mentally deficient wouldn't give his left testicle to be with. Since the net began, guys have posted as if they are all god's gift to women who somehow have earned the right to downplay the beauty of every woman on earth. Easy to sit behind a computer free from scrutiny and degrade beautiful women...would love to see what the average male poster really is able to attract...just one of those things that while funny is completely divorced from reality. I'm an old man and freely admit it, guess some folks are too insecure to do the same.

Oh go fucl< yerself you high and mighty phony.

Dahoss · #17 07-13-2011, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

While the women of the US team are there based on their ability I find it funny how guys in general respond on the net...there is not a single one of the players pictured in this thread that any guy who is (1) heterosexual and (2) not blind or mentally deficient wouldn't give his left testicle to be with. Since the net began, guys have posted as if they are all god's gift to women who somehow have earned the right to downplay the beauty of every woman on earth. Easy to sit behind a computer free from scrutiny and degrade beautiful women...would love to see what the average male poster really is able to attract...just one of those things that while funny is completely divorced from reality. I'm an old man and freely admit it, guess some folks are too insecure to do the same.

Reality advice from a middle aged tween. Only on the internet.

Antitrust32 · #18 07-13-2011, 02:23 PM

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I think any advantage you want to give Verlander for pitching in a "pitchers" park, when at home, is offset by the fact that Halladay gets an auto out at least once every 9 batters at least 75% of the time. Outside of Adam Dunne, Verlander has no easy outs.

no easy outs when he gets to play Cleveland?

(sorry clyde.. couldnt resist)

clyde · #19 07-13-2011, 02:25 PM

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no easy outs when he gets to play Cleveland?

(sorry clyde.. couldnt resist)

Is OK...I guess he never heard of Urns and Sizeless.

We have a few others,too.

Cannon Shell · #20 07-13-2011, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

I think any advantage you want to give Verlander for pitching in a "pitchers" park, when at home, is offset by the fact that Halladay gets an auto out at least once every 9 batters at least 75% of the time. Outside of Adam Dunne, Verlander has no easy outs.

Since very few pitchers average more than 6 IP that 1 in 9 number is not exactly accurate.

And considering there are exactly no good teams in the AL Central as of now the league difference isnt that big of a deal.

I am not knocking Verlander as I think he is great. But the assertion that he is clearly having a better season than Halladay is just not accurate.